Or maybe you could just be Buffy, he'll see your amazing heart, and he'll fall in love with you.

Xander ,'Get It Done'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Strix - Nov 18, 2011 7:21:14 am PST #7417 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

if-we-were-both-single-and-available-hell-yes

Yeah, this. And I can find people attractive AND then have people I AM attracted TO, like they give that good, low-down feelin' (Thanks, Faith!)

I mean, I have friends that I genuinely like, want to spend time with and would nevereverever DO anything with besides flirt/slap ass (See ABOVE: nothing I wouldn't do in front of my husband; these are CLOSE friends and we are a filthy talking, boob-grabbbing, ass-slapping bunch -- but we have been friends for a LONG time, and boundaries are crystal-clear).

Just because with a few of them, I occasionaly look at and think "YUM! Oh, yeah...!" doesn't mean I'm always walking around with a case of hornypants. It's just...circumstances were different, s/he'd be a person I would have sex with. Sure. S/he's great! Sexy!

It's not the BASIS of our friendship -- FAR from -- but an occasional little soupcon of TASTY! GRRR! that's fun.

And again, long-term friends. I would be VERY uncomfortable with a person I liked and thought was sexy, but who was a new addition to our close-knit circle, doing some of the flirting/grab-assing that my friends of 10-20 years are allowed to do.

And, like I said, nothing happens that wouldn't happen in front of my husband/in front of my girlfriends' DH's. "Man, your DH got RIPPED last summer -- he's looking hot, girl! Awesome!" of "Male Friend, you are looking whoa like fire in in that outfit! RAWR!"

And it's all cool. They feel good, we have fun, no one gets jealous, spouses feel happy because their choice of spouse feels good about themselves (and frankly, other people finding your partner attractive in a context such as this makes you appreciate them more, sometime -- "Hell, yeah, you ARE AWESOME! I knew that anyway, but c'mere, you! RAWR!"


Jessica - Nov 18, 2011 7:22:47 am PST #7418 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

It's not the BASIS of our friendship -- FAR from -- but an occasional little soupcon of TASTY! GRRR! that's fun.

Bonus points for use of the word "soupcon" in this sentence.


Fred Pete - Nov 18, 2011 7:25:12 am PST #7419 of 30001
Ann, that's a ferret.

Great car, Gud. Love the Lifesaver wheels.


§ ita § - Nov 18, 2011 7:25:22 am PST #7420 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'd be surprised if every guy couldn't have a relationship with a woman he was attracted to, but I'm not surprised by the idea that some guys (that I might like and respect) can't do it. I wouldn't hold it against them. They might be so attracted, so wanting to get into a relationship with the woman that it stings to be continually reminded of something they can't get. I dig that.


Strix - Nov 18, 2011 7:28:01 am PST #7421 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

I see your point, ita ! I think it can be different if the guy is already in a happy relationship. (Not always -- sometimes the hornypants are just TOO hot.)

Thanks, Jess! (I was torn between soupcon and lagniappe.) /geek


Strix - Nov 18, 2011 7:29:04 am PST #7422 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Huh.

Should I put a period when a sentence ends with "ita !"?

Unless it's a question?


meara - Nov 18, 2011 7:31:25 am PST #7423 of 30001

Yeah, I definitely am ALL ABOUT having friends that I think are attractive. I find almost all my friends attractive. But I do think it is harder if I am attracted TO my friends--yes, there are some (often amongst the swarm of drag kings I see annually), and some of them I make out with (and probably won't do anything more with ever), but honestly, if I'm really attracted to someone, and they lived nearby, it WOULD be hard to hang out with them on a friendship-only basis, regularly. Because I'd always be wanting more. A glimmer of attraction sure, but someone I'm crushing on? Too much, too hard to handle. It would just depress me.


Jessica - Nov 18, 2011 7:31:29 am PST #7424 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I think there's a big difference between "I'm too attracted to person X to be friends with them" and "Men can't be friends with women they're attracted to."

I certainly don't speak for all women, so I don't see why this douchebag should be allowed to speak for all men.


Steph L. - Nov 18, 2011 7:31:51 am PST #7425 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

other people finding your partner attractive in a context such as this makes you appreciate them more, sometime

Oh, man, I am from hell on this. Tim is growing his hair out, and it's long enough that people notice the difference and comment on it. We were out to dinner with a group of friends, and when we were leaving, standing around saying goodbye, one woman, started running her hands through Tim's hair, so then another woman did it. When a third one stepped up to do it, I finally snapped and said, "I'm sorry, but please stop fondling my boyfriend!"

They were nice about it and didn't punch me in the face for being such a bitch. I can't say I wouldn't do exactly the same thing if I could re-live the situation. It was just...too many people, pawing at my boyfriend in front of me, all at the same time. Gah.

He puts up with a LOT of shit from me.


Zenkitty - Nov 18, 2011 7:32:21 am PST #7426 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

The Princess and the Pea is not a fairytale, but a documentary on her life.

Oh, man, I have days like that. This tag ITCHES. There isn't any BACON. The litterbox STINKS. I don't like my CLOTHES. The floor is DIRTY. WHY is my LIFE so HARD?