Zoe: Next time we smuggle stock, let's make it something smaller. Wash: Yeah, we should start dealing in those black-market beagles.

'Safe'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


amych - Mar 01, 2012 1:49:41 pm PST #24712 of 30001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Do you guys think these are the death throes of a class of people who see the world moving on without them?

That's how it's been feeling to me for a while, but I'm almost afraid to hope/say it out loud in mixed company.


Consuela - Mar 01, 2012 1:52:24 pm PST #24713 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Do you guys think these are the death throes of a class of people who see the world moving on without them?

That's Jonathan Chait's theory--he had a long piece in NYMag about it the other day. That the white Christian male head of household is a shrinking minority, losing both his social and economic dominance over the country, and these last few years have been a desperate attempt to hold back the tide of urban multi-ethnic progressivism.


Zenkitty - Mar 01, 2012 1:52:25 pm PST #24714 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Allyson, I do. I see it as people who are terrified of the world they see coming and are taking desperate measures to protect the world as they think it should be. Which I could respect if I didn't think they were dangerous and crazy. I'm just hoping that their worldview actually dies out and doesn't get passed on to further generations in power.


Calli - Mar 01, 2012 1:53:36 pm PST #24715 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Congratulations, Juliana and M!


Consuela - Mar 01, 2012 1:54:07 pm PST #24716 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

And, of course, the world that they want to protect never really existed. Things were not, in fact, better in 1890, or in 1950. Or they were only better for rich white males -- and even they were unprotected from disease and contaminated air and water.


Connie Neil - Mar 01, 2012 1:58:06 pm PST #24717 of 30001
brillig

they were unprotected from disease and contaminated air and water.

Though back then there were more money-achievable enclaves that were less prone to disease and contamination. Their greed has even endangered their refuges, though, but they don't see it.

Or they have a secret moon base they'll all be leaving for soon.


amych - Mar 01, 2012 2:03:50 pm PST #24718 of 30001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

And, of course, the world that they want to protect never really existed.

Nope. They don't actually want the Eisenhower era*. What they want is the leave-it-to-beaverized version where the 50s weren't full of massive migrations, racial tension, fear of the bomb, and the rest.

* on seeing the in-laws' church for the first time, I asked the then-bf "they're kinda the Amish, aren't they?" It's not that they think it's 1953, but they're quite content to live without anything that happened since.


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 01, 2012 2:05:08 pm PST #24719 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Congrats Juliana and M!

On the Breitbart front, I have no comment, but I do have a plot bunny. What if God had finally decided enough is enough with Christians sullying His good name and the plague he sent to the US became heart disease that struck everyone who didn't have some sort on their car?
Crap, I’d better hope the flyers from the New Age-y granola resort in my back seat are visible from orbitHeaven!


Ginger - Mar 01, 2012 2:07:28 pm PST #24720 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Or they have a secret moon base they'll all be leaving for soon.

Newt is going to build it.


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 01, 2012 2:08:41 pm PST #24721 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

May Divorce be with you.