And remember, if you hurt her, I will beat you to death with a shovel.

Willow ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


msbelle - Mar 01, 2012 9:20:44 am PST #24652 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

maybe it is the same studies that show gay parents are bad for children. Or the ones that show abstinance only sex-ed programs decrease teen pregnancy. Or the ones that show providing women's health care to low-income women increases abortions. Or that providing contraception increases horrible unspeakable things.


brenda m - Mar 01, 2012 9:21:53 am PST #24653 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Huh. Obama has a Tumblr. [link] Ouch.


Frankenbuddha - Mar 01, 2012 9:23:10 am PST #24654 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

In better news, the Blunt amendment was voted down in the senate. Olympia Snow was the only R to cross the aisle and vote "this is batshit crazy."

I've been reading how her decision to not run makes Maine go from a sure win for the Republicans to a must-win, with a lately unpopular Repub governer whipping up the opposition already. Way to send a message on your way out, Olympia.


Hil R. - Mar 01, 2012 9:30:25 am PST #24655 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

From what I'm reading, it looks like a lot of it is that a lot of the factors that correlate strongly with child abuse (poverty, drug use) also correlate with single parenthood.


Amy - Mar 01, 2012 9:33:48 am PST #24656 of 30001
Because books.

msbelle, I don't really snuggle my own cats, but I'll happily come make things in your slow cooker. If you make me cocktails.


§ ita § - Mar 01, 2012 9:34:13 am PST #24657 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't have time right now to read the whole article Hil, but I assume they back this up:

Children living with single parents may be at higher risk of experiencing physical and sexual abuse and neglect than children living with two biological parents

With the stipulation that the abuse is at the hands of the custodial parent, right?


msbelle - Mar 01, 2012 9:35:40 am PST #24658 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

snuggling may have been the wrong word. Sharing furniture in close proximity to cats is more accurate.


Hil R. - Mar 01, 2012 9:37:29 am PST #24659 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

With the stipulation that the abuse is at the hands of the custodial parent, right?

It looks like the article is focusing specifically on abuse within the home. So abuse by a day care provider wouldn't be counted, but abuse by a mother's live-in boyfriend would.


msbelle - Mar 01, 2012 9:39:50 am PST #24660 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I heard about this play on the radio at lunch and I want to go see it: [link]


Hil R. - Mar 01, 2012 9:40:36 am PST #24661 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I'm reminded of a scene from the first episode of Grace Under Fire. Grace has just left her abusive husband, taking their three kids. She enrolled them in a new school in their new town, and within a day or two, she gets a call from the school that her oldest son, age 10 or so, has gotten into a fight. When she goes to see the teacher, the teacher says, rather condescendingly, "I know that he comes from a broken home," and Grace responds, "No, his home WAS broken. I fixed it."