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Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Jan 11, 2012 8:45:34 am PST #15660 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I had that yesterday. Do you think it passes through the cable?

It must, although I seem to have a chronic strain.

I'm increasingly aware that I don't process spoken language like most people do, and I try to not misunderstand things. Or, rather, if someone says something that seems "off," I try to figure out if there's a different reading of what they just said; 9.5 times out of 10, there is, and I just understood what they said differently.

But sometimes a statement's meaning seems obvious to me based on context. For instance, knowing what I know about a given situation, "You are on fire!" probably doesn't mean I am literally engulfed in flames -- unless I'm standing too close to a bonfire.

So this morning, I had one of those situation where I was sure I understood what chatty!co-worker said, due to context, but of course I misunderstood.

He told the 3 of us in my area "If [so-and-so] doesn't e-mail us, we are off work on MLK Day." I assumed the "if" was conditional -- meaning, if she does NOT e-mail us, we are off work, but if she DOES e-mail us, we have to work Monday. It makes grammatical sense, and, frankly, it's the way my office works. No clear holiday schedule -- just try to guess if we're off.

So my reaction was "I thought she already told us [in person] that we're closed Monday -- why would she change her mind?!?" And, of course, she didn't change her mind. That wasn't Chatty's point at all. What he meant was "[So-and-so] told some of us *in person* that we are closed on MLK Day, but she hasn't sent an e-mail yet. If she never gets around to e-mailing, those of you who weren't told in person might not know that we are closed on MLK Day. So, to be clear, we are closed Monday."

I will never, ever get it right.


DavidS - Jan 11, 2012 8:46:47 am PST #15661 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Chatty was unclear.


lisah - Jan 11, 2012 8:48:24 am PST #15662 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

"If [so-and-so] doesn't e-mail us, we are off work on MLK Day." I assumed the "if" was conditional -- meaning, if she does NOT e-mail us, we are off work, but if she DOES e-mail us, we have to work Monday.

Your interpretation would be what mine.

The take away should be that you have off on Monday!

We don't get another holiday until Memorial Day.


Jessica - Jan 11, 2012 8:52:37 am PST #15663 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

That's a sentence that changes completely based on tone of voice. Emphasis one way, it's "if X then Y" but change the tone just a little and it's "By the way in case X doesn't happen, Y."

(I could try typing out what I mean, but obviously that would be pointless because..tone of voice.)


Jesse - Jan 11, 2012 8:54:08 am PST #15664 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I am excited that I get off for MLK and President's Day AND am taking another three-day weekend myself!

I was feeling like I've been at work a lot recently, when I remembered that at this time last year, I had had several sick days AND several snow days already. So I guess it's good that I've been able to come to work? Maybe.


meara - Jan 11, 2012 8:55:16 am PST #15665 of 30001

Yeah, I'ma go with "unclear" and "possibly clearer when tone of voice/phrasing/emphasis is available"

I am completely braindead this morning, and it's 11AM and I have accomplished no work. And since I was traveling yesterday and Monday, and am out again tomorrow and Friday AND next Monday/Tuesday, I have a CRAPTON of work to do. Things with real deadlines. And I just...can't...


Liese S. - Jan 11, 2012 8:57:00 am PST #15666 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I would have heard it the way you did. Chatty meant, "Even if," but oh, well, day off!

I have the day off too, but that means very little because I am in my big push for year end reporting. In fact, I should not be on here at all right now.


Sue - Jan 11, 2012 9:00:45 am PST #15667 of 30001
hip deep in pie

I think I may have accidentally infected meara with the braindeadness, because that is my totally my day too. I'm so sluggish, i'm starting to wonder if I'm coming down with something.


JenP - Jan 11, 2012 9:12:19 am PST #15668 of 30001

Yeah, I understood it the way you did, Steph. [Probably going for a nicer way of saying, "Whether or not X remembers to send the e-mail, we're off on Monday, yay!" (I'd have added the yay, which would totally have distracted everyone from my lack of faith in X remembering to send the e-mail, see.)]

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Way to be tough, Reece!! Also, I adore your name. Adore.

Gracie, with the chewing, yay!

Amy, I am both sorry for the ick part of getting fired and confident that this will open up for you good things for you. And, yes, meds, kick in now, please.

There was more...


Connie Neil - Jan 11, 2012 9:13:40 am PST #15669 of 30001
brillig

I don't have another *guaranteed* holiday until next Christmas. I'll probably have Thanksgiving off. Other than that, unless you actively ask for it to have off--and it may come out of your PTO--if it's a holiday, we're here. Granted, we're all in blue jeans and watching movies on our computers because the rest of the world is taking the day off, but we're here at work. The managers all blink and say "But you're getting overtime by being here!", as if we should be happy-skippy thrilled to be missing a chance to rest and have some fun.