I got stupid. The money was too good.

Jayne ,'Objects In Space'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Holli - Dec 09, 2011 7:07:20 am PST #10679 of 30001
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore

I... probably should not contribute to the aging discussion, because it would make y'all hate me. But I will note that I can't pull all-nighters anymore like I could even four or five years ago.

(I turn 26 in like two weeks. Eep!)


le nubian - Dec 09, 2011 7:08:49 am PST #10680 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

lcat and Sophia,

so, the student is a master's level student and I think if she passes both classes this term, she will graduate. Whether or not she graduates this term now has no impact on my decision. Before I was thinking I would try to help her meet the December graduation deadline, but that consideration is entirely off the table now.

Get this: she plagiarized on a rewrite of a paper I made her redo from last semester. It was bad and I would not let a student complete my class with such bad writing. Beau thinks just on GP that I should fail her because the rewrite WAS her 2nd chance.

Two things are at issue for me that aren't personal (as in: WHY did she do this in my class? *scream*) -

1) I think it is a serious problem for someone to graduate with a bachelor's degree and a master's degree and not know how to properly cite and not know what plagiarism is. She claimed not to realize that if you paraphrase, you should include the author and date and that direct quotes from the internet should be cited.

2) given #1, if I read the problem as partially the result of her ignorance, she won't become knowledgeable about it unless I make her do an assignment.

She is not a good student, she does not write well. I sent her to the Writing Center previously and her papers (supposedly after their help) are barely "B" level writing.


sumi - Dec 09, 2011 7:10:39 am PST #10681 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

OMG, a MASTER'S STUDENT?

Yeah, I vote thumbs down - she fails.


DavidS - Dec 09, 2011 7:10:43 am PST #10682 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

(I turn 26 in like two weeks. Eep!)

No way. You're still a teenager and an eskimo.


JZ - Dec 09, 2011 7:12:25 am PST #10683 of 30001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Ugh. She's master's level and this is her rewrite? There is no excuse. None.

How appalling, and how frustrating for you.


Holli - Dec 09, 2011 7:13:21 am PST #10684 of 30001
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore

I will always be an eskimo. But teenager is far behind me. Along with my ability to go without sleep.


le nubian - Dec 09, 2011 7:14:28 am PST #10685 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Thank you all. Your comments are helpful to me in terms of perspective.


Sophia Brooks - Dec 09, 2011 7:16:06 am PST #10686 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

OK- I am on the "fail" train now. If what she claims is true (about the paraphrasing) she does not deserve a masters, as I learned that in high school.

I think that she fails AND has to redo the assignment.


le nubian - Dec 09, 2011 7:18:47 am PST #10687 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Chronic pain people:

a UCSF study found that opiates along with mary jane (medical marijuana) can help people with their pain management.

[link]


Amy - Dec 09, 2011 7:19:15 am PST #10688 of 30001
Because books.

She's a master student and she doesn't know how not to plagiarize? Whoa. Fail her, and fail her hard.