Mal: So we run. Nandi: I understand, Captain Reynolds. You have your people to think of, same as me. And this ain't your fight. Mal: Don't believe you do understand, Nandi. I said 'we run'. We.

'Heart Of Gold'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Calli - Dec 08, 2011 3:52:17 pm PST #10569 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Now that it's chilly I'll be drinking tea again. I like Twinings Constant Comment, with the orange peel. A little sweetener, no milk.


§ ita § - Dec 08, 2011 3:54:33 pm PST #10570 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm looking at this Shortpacked comic critiquing the sexualising of female superheroes, and I find something weird about it. In the female character's quest to say "No. That's not what I find attractive in a man." she totally feminises and makes Batman childlike. I'm not surprised the man is uncomfortable. She's making Batman look more like her. That's completely different from how badly handled Catwoman makes me feel uncomfortable.

I totally get the difference between Batman being designed as a power fantasy and Catwoman as a sexual one, but isn't Batman also attractive women? Isn't that part of a male power fantasy (in a way that doesn't translate as effectively across the genders)? I mean, the powerful male superhero is sexier than the sexy female superhero is powerful?

Okay, I've totally confused myself now. It was totally clear a few minutes ago.

Oh, *don't* read the comments. FYI. FWIW. FTR.


Steph L. - Dec 08, 2011 3:56:30 pm PST #10571 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Oh, *don't* read the comments.

They have Olympic-level mansplaining in there. The only good part of the comments was the person whose comment was "Abed is Batman now."


Stephanie - Dec 08, 2011 3:59:24 pm PST #10572 of 30001
Trust my rage

My favorite tea is Good Earth. I swear, it tastes richer than any other tea I've tried.


Steph L. - Dec 08, 2011 3:59:54 pm PST #10573 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

but isn't Batman also attractive women?

Within the comic? Selina, Talia, etc? Or to the readers? Because (my demisexuality and Batman's fictionality notwithstanding), I don't find Batman sexually attractive. He's scary and fucked-up.

Nightwing, OTOH.... (And I know some of the comments on that Shortpacked are along the lines of, "Hey, didn't Amber basically draw Nightwing?")


Amy - Dec 08, 2011 4:01:33 pm PST #10574 of 30001
Because books.

Isn't that part of a male power fantasy (in a way that doesn't translate as effectively across the genders)? I mean, the powerful male superhero is sexier than the sexy female superhero is powerful?

I think that's probably true a lot of the time.


Jesse - Dec 08, 2011 4:05:16 pm PST #10575 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I mean, the powerful male superhero is sexier than the sexy female superhero is powerful?

I think that's the problem?


Cashmere - Dec 08, 2011 4:06:25 pm PST #10576 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.

What part of "don't read the comments" don't I understand.

Head, meet desk.


§ ita § - Dec 08, 2011 4:14:11 pm PST #10577 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Within the comic? Selina, Talia, etc? Or to the readers? Because (my demisexuality and Batman's fictionality notwithstanding), I don't find Batman sexually attractive.

It's not about the personality--they're not necessarily portraying the women as particularly sexual people, but they're drawn that way.

And I'm just saying that the way the men are drawn is also sexually attractive, even though it's secondary--it's a side effect of their power. What that woman drew is further away from the typical male physical ideal than how Batman looks now.

Hey, didn't Amber basically draw Nightwing?

But she didn't. There aren't any, as far as I know, major DC or Marvel male characters with that degree of facial feminisation.


smonster - Dec 08, 2011 4:16:33 pm PST #10578 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

I finally found a duvet cover I like - [link] Now to figure out if I can afford it (currently my white duvet is sandwiched between a cheapass green fleece blanket and a sheet, so I'd like to upgrade).