Spike? It's you. It's really you! My therapist thought I was holding on to false hope, but…I knew you'd come back. You're like…you're like Gandalf the White, resurrected from the pit of the Balrog, more beautiful than ever. Oh…he's alive Frodo. He's alive.

Andrew ,'Damage'


Spike's Bitches 47: Someone Dangerous Could Get In  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Steph L. - Jan 19, 2012 5:47:13 am PST #5847 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I could never eat that much beer-and-gonads.

Seriously, my brother IS Tony Bourdain, 20 years younger. No joke. If he could get paid to travel the world and eat pig's anus tartare, he would.

one of my coworkers, for reasons that defy my understanding, decided it was appropriate for him to tell me I should stop drinking so much Coke Zero, in order to lose weight.

But...Coke Zero has no calories. That's why it's Zero!

(Lard Glug: contains neither lard nor glug.)


billytea - Jan 19, 2012 5:50:02 am PST #5848 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

But...Coke Zero has no calories. That's why it's Zero!

I know! I lost over 10 kilos when I switched to Coke Zero from regular Coke! I'm not sure (read: don't care) what his reasoning was. I recall some vague suggestion that drinking diet sodas can give someone a sweet tooth, so they consume more sugar asidde from the diet drinks. I would be concerned with that if I hadn't had a sweet tooth for all of living memory.


sumi - Jan 19, 2012 5:53:09 am PST #5849 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

For me - it's not the fact of the diabetes but the fact that she is going to be making a buttload of money off of it. It's just another part of her empire.


erikaj - Jan 19, 2012 5:55:40 am PST #5850 of 30001
Always Anti-fascist!

I would say that takes "synergy" into overdrive myself, Sumi.


Steph L. - Jan 19, 2012 5:58:50 am PST #5851 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

For me - it's not the fact of the diabetes but the fact that she is going to be making a buttload of money off of it. It's just another part of her empire.

For being a spokesperson for a diabetes drug?

Let me ask you -- do you have a problem with Sally Field hawking Boniva? Or Jamie Lee Curtis and the colon yogurt (I can't remember what it's called)?

I never hear people complain about them, FTR.


erikaj - Jan 19, 2012 6:01:07 am PST #5852 of 30001
Always Anti-fascist!

I do wonder if Sally Field feels bad about all the women who broke their legs while using Boniva.


billytea - Jan 19, 2012 6:01:27 am PST #5853 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Or Jamie Lee Curtis and the colon yogurt (I can't remember what it's called)?

I have no problem with Jamie Lee Curtis, but from the name alone I have a problem with the colon yogurt. (If they produce a low-fat version, would that be a semi-colon yogurt?)


§ ita § - Jan 19, 2012 6:01:52 am PST #5854 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My old boss used to continually comment on my food. The last one at this job, I mean. I shouldn't eat x, because surely it made my headaches worse, I really shouldn't have *another* smoothie (seriously? I'm drinking fruit pulp here with no added sugar. Step off), once a week he had something to say or an eyebrow to raise at my choices.

Unlike grams of sugar guy, I couldn't argue him into stopping. I explained what wasn't a migraine trigger for me, but he wasn't hearing any of that. Not that he should have had to, but there you go.


Fred Pete - Jan 19, 2012 6:02:53 am PST #5855 of 30001
Ann, that's a ferret.

There is nothing immoral or moral about eating. Seriously. It's just food.

I'm not thinking moral or immoral. I'm thinking of a former co-worker who had a condition (Crohn's Disease?) that gave him a bad reaction to any wheat products. As in, at one division lunch, he had a salad topped with Chinese noodly things. He asked whether the noodlies were wheat-based and was told no. The waiter was wrong, and co-worker was out sick for the next couple of days.

So, probably not a good idea for him to eat a donut hole. But I'd place it on the wise/foolish continuum, not the moral/immoral continuum.


Amy - Jan 19, 2012 6:04:19 am PST #5856 of 30001
Because books.

The criticism of her is really galling. For one thing, having diabetes is her business, not anyone else's. And there are plenty of people who could make her recipes every day for life and never get diabetes, because their bodies don't work that way.

She was also making her money based on a particular style of cooking, and popping up with the news that she had been diagnosed with diabetes was ... pretty likely to lead to exactly what happened. A lot of people criticizing the food she makes, which does not equal more cookbook sales or advertising dollars for her shows.

I hate how much judgment there is around anything to do with weight, especially when it's not true. I have Type II diabetes, have had since I was 32, and at the time I wasn't more than twenty pounds over where the doctors wanted me to be. I got it because *that's the way my body works* and that's it.