Cats are so predictable sometimes. I took a 2x2 furry mat that they had ignored from out of the bedroom and placed it in a corner of the living room. First they fought over it, now they have to sit next to each other to both fit their butts on it.

The kick-ass warrior woman exists for the same reason the whore does: for the delighted gaze of men

Not while I still get so much pleasure out of her. It's not like Aisha fucked an ugly guy in The Losers. Her character was vital to the plot--why can't she be female? If she's female, why can't she sleep with someone?

If the warrior woman were fully dressed, wearing combat boots, no jewelry or makeup, with her hair cut short, and she fought the main guy and won and then walked away without fucking him?

Yeah, and if you make the leading man not typically attractive and sexual, you also risk your target market. How is that surprising? Sex sells. Sexy people sells. IF you were bitching about unpleasant men getting the hot chick all the time, then I'd kinda see your point. But what we're seeing is the apex of both male and female looks sexing each other up--and the woman doesn't have to fight to get to be the love interest. And she doesn't have to not fight. She can be a scientist or a fighter pilot or a busineswoman or a soldier and still come away with the leading man. Where's the warrior whore in that? Where are the warriors and whores in this summer's movies?

Aisha had a crucial role in The Losers. Without her, there's no movie, just a bunch of guy stuck wherever that was after the helicopter crash.

I think she slept with him, or intended to, to get him to let his guard down. Then they found the spark. Nothing wrong with either thing for me.

Green and sparkly.(My Favorite Martian from Confetti- how could I resist?)

Sheryl, I totally need this.

but then became very interested hearing about his motorcycling. Though really, 73 year old who rides out a classic italian bike from Colorado? In the summer? During a heat wave? In full gear?Kind of an interesting topic!

sara, Dave Despain who is an autosport journalist is 65 and taking a trip from North Carolina to Alaska. In full gear. I ... don't know what he's riding. But it's fun watching him send in reports. I think I am totally impressed though because that'd be a long trip for me in a car.

I mean, I'd talk to your uncle for hours, honestly.

I like my left eyebrow better than my right eyebrow. It's a shame that my right eyebrow can't be shaped to look like my left. It's far superior. I think waxers make the left look like the right, and I think they should just make the left look as good as it can and damn the limitations of the right, you know. Fuck symmetry.

I completely agree. My left could look better than it does, but the right is all limiting. Also I think the left extends a little further out, which is better. But lady waxer goes for more symmetry and it ends up a little shorter. I am not symmetrical and it's limiting.

Neil deGrasse Tyson to host a sequel series to Cosmos.

So awesome! Though the McFarland is more than a little wtf. But I love Sagan and NDeGT, so I am giving it a shot.

"What is that female doing there? Get her out of the way and let the guys snark at each other!"

I am guessing being female, like, oh half of the population. It's really not a lot to ask that females exist in entertainment. Or have actual roles and lives and ... seriously?

That was a megameara. Sheesh, reading a thousand posts takes days and then you have more to catch up on... Mostly I seemed to care most about motorcycle trips and brow waxing, in retrospect.

they were all cartoonish and two-dimensional, and they all bored me.

Aw, not even Jensen with his pansies t-shirts?

If the warrior woman were fully dressed, wearing combat boots, no jewelry or makeup, with her hair cut short, and she fought the main guy and won and then walked away without fucking him? That would be realistic, and not one man would be interested.

Except for the hair, isn't that pretty much River Tam? Okay, she fought the Reavers instead of the main guy...

Also, show me ANY WOMAN in a movie who has short hair and wears combat boots and no (obvious) makeup (since we know the guys are wearing makeup, too). The issue of what kinds of men and women get portrayed in movies is much larger than warriors/whores/damsels. Given those three options? I'll take the warriors, thanks.

I think she slept with him, or intended to, to get him to let his guard down. Then they found the spark. Nothing wrong with either thing for me.

Same here. Plus, they were more or less equals in combat, in status, in gun handling. I like the equals thing. It's true that romances get shoehorned into movies; I'd personally rather see a romance of relative equals than a romance of damsel and white knight.

Oh, and, let's talk about all those ass-kicking guys in movies. You know, like, superheroes and shit? How realistic is it that all those guys can kick ass? I'm thinking... NSM. So, given that Hollywood is going to continue to make action movies with guys who kick ass, and continue to have hetero love interests for those guys, I would prefer that those girls also kick ass in some fashion. Although I sure would love to see a movie about a gay superhero who goes home to his librarian partner, who helps save the day with his mad research skills.

Also, show me ANY WOMAN in a movie who has short hair and wears combat boots and no (obvious) makeup (since we know the guys are wearing makeup, too).

Vasquez in Aliens.

I am guessing being female, like, oh half of the population. It's really not a lot to ask that females exist in entertainment. Or have actual roles and lives and ... seriously?

I was going to let this go because it looked like it had moved on, but really? I make one flippant, generalized remark about summertime blow-em-up popcorn movies where a woman often gets shoehorned in because some studio flack thinks there needs to be hetero sex appeal, and suddenly I'm a gender traitor?

Point: I haven't seen Cowboys and Aliens. I have no knowledge of the comics. I don't know if Olivia Wilde turns in a nuanced, meaningful, female-empowering performance or not. I'm going off the trailers, and they look like her character is there for standard encouragement-spouting etc. I'm probably wrong. I'll know when I see it.

But I am highly surprised that this forum is taking my one remark about watching fluff movies for the hot guys as some sort of call for removing women from media because I'm too shallow to appreciate anything but the HoYay.

I honestly expect better from this place.

(In response to Hec) Well, yeah, and GI Jane. That's two. More? My point is that the vast majority of women in movies will be by default 1) skinny 2) long-haired 3) adhering to western gender appearance norms WRT clothing. So it's not fair to single out the asskicking chicks for looking that way, although I do believe it's harder to kick ass in heels.

More?

Carrie Moss in the Matrix.