My admittedly vague memories at that time was that both groups were creepy.
They're doing it backwards; walking up the down slide.
River ,'Ariel'
Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Burrell - Aug 02, 2011 8:50:41 pm PDT #19061 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!
javachik - Aug 02, 2011 8:53:25 pm PDT #19062 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.
A one-time close friend dismantled her marriage because of her involvement with the "Noetics Institute" and it was a real fucking bummer to watch.
DavidS - Aug 02, 2011 9:03:37 pm PDT #19063 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
EM was subjected to Mind Control at a communist controlled camp in Cuba in the 70s and it Fucked. Her. Up.
(Mind Control is a specific form of cult indoctrination, distinct from Brainwashing.)
She did a lot of therapy with a specialist on the subject.
Then her sister became involved in the Recovered Memory movement so I wound up getting an education in two of the all time great Mind Fucks of the last forty years.
Lee - Aug 02, 2011 9:07:29 pm PDT #19064 of 30001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
And an irritating thing on this show, they gave a blanket pass to women involved in couple kidnappings. Only men are that evil. Women are just broken.
And victims. Always victims. (That pissed me off too.)
le nubian - Aug 03, 2011 2:59:03 am PDT #19065 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
Burrell,
I am not sure why Jamestown fucked you up, but I was about 7 or 8 when Jamestown came across the news and I just could not get over all the adults and little kids dying in mass after drinking kool-aid! The family watched "60 minutes" every Sunday faithfully and some of the material on that program still lives with me decades later.
They had some grim shit on "60 minutes."
Aims - Aug 03, 2011 4:05:09 am PDT #19066 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.
I didn't really know what happened at Jonestown until I was in my 30s. Em was about 2 at the time. Joe and I watched a documentary on PBS and I totally fell apart at the end. For me it was the actions of the parents in regards to their children and the total manipulation and control Jim Jones had over these people. Scares the ever loving crap out of me because from what I saw on the documentary, the People's Church seemed so beautiful in the beginning.
sumi - Aug 03, 2011 4:08:54 am PDT #19067 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!
Kat - Aug 03, 2011 4:20:36 am PDT #19068 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
Sumi, that link made me laugh.
I hate thinking about abductions, and I generally don't. The selectivity of the brain to be able to not focus on the terrifying and worrisome is a marvelous thing.
In other news, I love the drawings of things writers fuel themselves with: [link] Of course Michael Pollan chooses tea and a handful of almonds!
§ ita § - Aug 03, 2011 4:42:54 am PDT #19069 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I just had someone express surprise that there are white Haitians. Seriously? Are we still there? Aside from the fact that white Haitians can go back centuries, are there likely to be many countries left with no white population? He thought that if there were white people, they were the children of long term tourists.
Yeah, because that's a big phenomenon.
Jesse - Aug 03, 2011 4:46:13 am PDT #19070 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Honestly, I don't know that I've ever thought about it, but if I were to imagine countries without native white people, Haiti would be among a few I would think of. Not that it's right, but I think I'm fairly worldly and know a bunch of Haitians.