I didn't really know what happened at Jonestown until I was in my 30s. Em was about 2 at the time. Joe and I watched a documentary on PBS and I totally fell apart at the end. For me it was the actions of the parents in regards to their children and the total manipulation and control Jim Jones had over these people. Scares the ever loving crap out of me because from what I saw on the documentary, the People's Church seemed so beautiful in the beginning.
Now hold on, I'm gonna press the right pedal harder. I expect us to accelerate.
Anya ,'Showtime'
Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Aims - Aug 03, 2011 4:05:09 am PDT #19066 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.
sumi - Aug 03, 2011 4:08:54 am PDT #19067 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!
Kat - Aug 03, 2011 4:20:36 am PDT #19068 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
Sumi, that link made me laugh.
I hate thinking about abductions, and I generally don't. The selectivity of the brain to be able to not focus on the terrifying and worrisome is a marvelous thing.
In other news, I love the drawings of things writers fuel themselves with: [link] Of course Michael Pollan chooses tea and a handful of almonds!
§ ita § - Aug 03, 2011 4:42:54 am PDT #19069 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I just had someone express surprise that there are white Haitians. Seriously? Are we still there? Aside from the fact that white Haitians can go back centuries, are there likely to be many countries left with no white population? He thought that if there were white people, they were the children of long term tourists.
Yeah, because that's a big phenomenon.
Jesse - Aug 03, 2011 4:46:13 am PDT #19070 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Honestly, I don't know that I've ever thought about it, but if I were to imagine countries without native white people, Haiti would be among a few I would think of. Not that it's right, but I think I'm fairly worldly and know a bunch of Haitians.
§ ita § - Aug 03, 2011 4:50:37 am PDT #19071 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Would you think that *all* the colonists moved away or intermarried? Isn't that weird?
Jesse - Aug 03, 2011 4:56:51 am PDT #19072 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
My relatively uninformed impression is that they were kicked out and/or killed. And on reflection, it's a little weird, but weird shit happens! And maybe is more likely in such a small place? I don't know.
Jesse - Aug 03, 2011 5:02:41 am PDT #19073 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
And the country is currently 95% black: [link] so it's not like non-black Haitians are common, at least.
On the flip side, they say Jamaica is 91% black, and I did go to college with a Chinese-Jamaican guy, so I have first-hand knowledge of a relatively small group in the general population, so.
Consuela - Aug 03, 2011 5:03:33 am PDT #19074 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
My relatively uninformed impression is that they were kicked out.
I admit this is mine, too.
Consuela - Aug 03, 2011 5:04:29 am PDT #19075 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
Wikipedia (that font of knowledge!) tells me that many ousted Haitian property-owners ended up resettling in Louisiana. Huh.