Bar maid! Bring me stronger ale! And some plump, succulent babies to eat!

Olaf the Troll ,'Showtime'


Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Jul 11, 2011 7:26:50 pm PDT #16234 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I know kids that age who can articulate why they don't believe in Santa, even though they're willing to let other kids celebrate without disabusing them of their notions

Which would make him a nicer kid than me, because I was a disabusing little bitchette. No praying during Monopoly! First off, there's no God otherwise there'd be dinosaurs in the Bible, and secondly, if there is, he's not allowed to help your dice roll.


Burrell - Jul 11, 2011 7:47:24 pm PDT #16235 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

too young to learn about God, because then he'll believe he actually exists.

I find my kids are able to hold fairly complex views on God, like that some believe in one kind of God, some in another, some in no God at all, and Franny can articulate what God means to her. And yet despite that, I feel like I've been very remiss in conveying to them a conventional understanding of God.


DavidS - Jul 11, 2011 7:48:31 pm PDT #16236 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

The Millionaire's flight of the Hindenburg. (Not the one where it exploded.)

I kind of love the menu.

Hindenburg left Lakehurst at approximately 6:00 AM and flew to New England. The ship circled over Boston around noon while the VIP guests enjoyed a midday meal of Swallow Nest Soup, cold Rhine salmon, tenderloin steak, Chateau Potatoes, Beans a la Princesse, Carmen salad, and iced melon, accompanied by beer and wines including a 1934 Piesporter Goldtröpfchen and a 1928 Feist Brut. The meal was followed by Turkish coffee, pastries, and fine liqueurs.


meara - Jul 11, 2011 8:40:07 pm PDT #16237 of 30001

Anybody else watching Switched At Birth?

I was, and I've got it on my tivo...but am a few episodes behind. I've been trying to decide if I want to keep watching, I like the idea but it's fairly groan-worthy in concept (if only because...teenagers being teenagery can be annoying)


Jessica - Jul 12, 2011 2:22:51 am PDT #16238 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

too young to learn about God, because then he'll believe he actually exists.

I'm having the opposite reaction - if I don't teach my kids about practicing safe atheism, they'll find out about religion on the streets! Quick, to the Raising Freethinkers-mobile!


sumi - Jul 12, 2011 4:27:19 am PDT #16239 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Recently rediscovered DaVinci to be exhibited at London's National Gallery November 9, 2011 through February 5, 2012.

And Antiques Road Show discovered a $250,000-$300,000 Frederic Remington in Minneapolis.


Hil R. - Jul 12, 2011 4:27:30 am PDT #16240 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I was, and I've got it on my tivo...but am a few episodes behind. I've been trying to decide if I want to keep watching, I like the idea but it's fairly groan-worthy in concept (if only because...teenagers being teenagery can be annoying)

Yeah. It's the only show I can remember with multiple deaf characters who are all actually characters, but some of the teenage stuff can get irritating.


sumi - Jul 12, 2011 5:37:20 am PDT #16241 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Knit or crochet wigs.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 12, 2011 5:46:18 am PDT #16242 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I find my kids are able to hold fairly complex views on God, like that some believe in one kind of God, some in another, some in no God at all, and Franny can articulate what God means to her. And yet despite that, I feel like I've been very remiss in conveying to them a conventional understanding of God.

It sounds like you're doing a good job to me. It's not as if they're going to have trouble finding anyone willing to talk about religion from a traditional believer's perspective should they grow curious about it later on.


§ ita § - Jul 12, 2011 6:21:35 am PDT #16243 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Can we declare a moratorium on rape in popular media? I am especially tired of people's non-reaction to it. It's really depressing. Also creator's non-intent in what seems pretty clearly non-consensual sexual relations. In something that aired recently the showrunner called it "comeuppance" rather than call it rape. What? Never mind the continual Torchwood and Vampire Diaries noncon discussions. Also prison rape as rightful retribution and punchline.