I'd like to think that getting health services is a basic right for everyone.

So would I, but there is definitely a part of our society who believes health insurance and health care is something you work for and don't just get. That segment tends to get really angry about having to fund other people's "free stuff." These are also, generally, privileged people who have been very lucky and have had jobs, money, and health insurance.

reason #67 I love working at home and having a work area connected to the kitchen: rice and beans are cooking on the stove and I can manage to figure out the settings on the old electric stovetop while still getting work done. simmer = "warm" not "lo", who knew?

So would I, but there is definitely a part of our society who believes health insurance and health care is something you work for and don't just get. That segment tends to get really angry about having to fund other people's "free stuff." These are also, generally, privileged people who have been very lucky and have had jobs, money, and health insurance.

Maybe I should elaborate. I think that among the basic rights are the right to get health services, the right to work for your living, the right to get some sort of basic education for all and the right to own property (in capitalist societies). Mixing both of work and health rights is kind of like mixing the education and property rights: if you don't own property, you can't go to school. Or if you don't go to school, you can't get property. Sure there's some kind of link - but it shouldn't be a compulsory one, in my eyes.

I have a question for the hivemind: what do you all think of saying the Pledge of Allegiance? I don't want to be more specific than that right now because I don't want to ask leading questions, so I'll leave it wide open for now.

what do you all think of saying the Pledge of Allegiance?

Do you want an opinion from non-Americans, as well?

I'd like to think that getting health services is a basic right for everyone.

Did this conversation jump from Bitches, or vice versa? Because the same conversation is happening in 2 threads simultaneously.

t /not thread-nannying; just curious

it shouldn't be a compulsory one

Technically it's not here if you can afford private insurance. It's just realistically, most people can't afford insurance without an employer helping out.

Do you want an opinion from non-Americans, as well?

Sure.

Did this conversation jump from Bitches, or vice versa?

No clue. I only know that I came to play here again the first time since a-lot-of-time yesterday, and hey, same talks! (But no, I don't think I caused it).

Edit:

Technically it's not here if you can afford private insurance. It's just realistically, most people can't afford insurance without an employer helping out.

Yeah. I was talking about realistically-non-compulsory link between the rights.

what do you all think of saying the Pledge of Allegiance?

I didn't do it. At least not in high school. Partly it was the "under God" thing and partly because it seemed to go against what I understood as the founding principles of my country.

To it's credit, my HS never gave me shit for it. Some classes didn't even do it.