'Harm's Way'
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what do you all think of saying the Pledge of Allegiance?
I didn't do it. At least not in high school. Partly it was the "under God" thing and partly because it seemed to go against what I understood as the founding principles of my country.
To it's credit, my HS never gave me shit for it. Some classes didn't even do it.
I have a question for the hivemind: what do you all think of saying the Pledge of Allegiance? I don't want to be more specific than that right now because I don't want to ask leading questions, so I'll leave it wide open for now.
The original 1892 version or the amended version from 1954?
When I was in school I never gave it a second thought. As an adult, I think it's a little creepy.
[eta: Not the pledge itself, but making kids say it in school.]
I don't have a problem with it - Emeline says it in her classroom every morning. I don't think it's compulsory, but they say it.
I understand the issues surrounding it, particularly the "under God" part, but personally, as a parent, I don't have a problem with it.
The original 1892 version or the amended version from 1954?
The current version.
partly because it seemed to go against what I understood as the founding principles of my country
Could you elaborate?
As an adult, I think it's a little creepy.
Why?
I didn't do it. At least not in high school. Partly it was the "under God" thing and partly because it seemed to go against what I understood as the founding principles of my country.
If the "with liberty and justice for all" part were even remotely true, I'd have less of a problem with it. t edit I understand that that's the (alleged) ideal, or at least was the ideal when it was written, but...NSM in the real world we have to live in.
Also, making kids stand and recite a loyalty oath every morning is like, Hello Red China!
I think we said it every morning in grade school. I didn't question it then. I don't think I'd mind if my kids said it now. Mostly because it's for show.
I'd say it now if asked--but I also bow my head when others around me pray, even though I do not.
Also, making kids stand and recite a loyalty oath every morning is like, Hello Red China!
This.
In junior high, we were supposed to say the Pledge during first period, which is when I had Spanish class, so we used to say it in Spanish.
In grade school we said it and then sang "My Country Tis of Thee".
And funnily enough, when Emeline first learned it last year, she made us say it before every meal. I think because her class got their morning snack right after.