Buffy ,'Never Leave Me'
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
"Mosque? Vikings? CIVIL WAR WTF?!?"
I kinda want to hook him up with my one vaccine-conspiracy-theory-loving Rand-Paul-supporting school friend. But even moved away and turned... interesting, she's too much of a New Yorker at heart to put up with that shit.
Them blacks want all the white stuff for their very own.
Well sure, so do I. Only since I'm white I just call it "stuff."
Yeah. From the south over here, and the civil war? It was about slavery. You can talk around it all you want. States rights...to let people own other people. Economics...like the economic advantage you get when you have unpaid labor in the form of slaves. It's not damaging or insulting to my heritage to say so either.
I think the nuance is that slavery was not just about morality but about money. So the war was not necessarily because the great northern people wanted to rescue the poor enslaved black people, but also because of money.
Wait. I thought the Civil War was about Vikings?
States rights...to let people own other people. Economics...like the economic advantage you get when you have unpaid labor in the form of slaves. It's not damaging or insulting to my heritage to say so either.
Word.
I just quoted the SC Articles of Secession at him. "Slave" is mentioned a number of times.
Yeah, there were lots of issues going into the Civil War, but just about all of those issues were issues because of slavery.
Wait. I thought the Civil War was about Vikings?
Caused when Favre went from the Packers to the Vikings?
I think the nuance is that slavery was not just about morality but about money. So the war was not necessarily because the great northern people wanted to rescue the poor enslaved black people, but also because of money.
But even then, the money in question was mostly property in the form of slaves and agricultural products produced with slave labor. There's really no way to study the Civil War with any degree of intellectual honesty and say with a straight face that "it wasn't about slavery."
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I think the "not about slavery" thing came about as a simplification of the "not about morals", is what I am trying to say. That is, from personal experience, upstate NY schools in the 1980's taught about the Civil War as if every Northern Person was a completely non-racially prejudiced abolishionist on a crusade to free slaves. So it was a little shocking to realize there were other reasons that "it was wrong", at least to me personally. Sort of like discovering that White People coming to american wasn't all Indian Corn and Thanksgiving as it was taught to me.