I think the nuance is that slavery was not just about morality but about money. So the war was not necessarily because the great northern people wanted to rescue the poor enslaved black people, but also because of money.
Who was the real power? The Captain? or Tenille?
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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Sophia Brooks - Aug 17, 2010 11:10:07 am PDT #18460 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here
Steph L. - Aug 17, 2010 11:14:14 am PDT #18461 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
Wait. I thought the Civil War was about Vikings?
smonster - Aug 17, 2010 11:14:16 am PDT #18462 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.
States rights...to let people own other people. Economics...like the economic advantage you get when you have unpaid labor in the form of slaves. It's not damaging or insulting to my heritage to say so either.
Word.
I just quoted the SC Articles of Secession at him. "Slave" is mentioned a number of times.
Hil R. - Aug 17, 2010 11:14:28 am PDT #18463 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
Yeah, there were lots of issues going into the Civil War, but just about all of those issues were issues because of slavery.
tommyrot - Aug 17, 2010 11:16:01 am PDT #18464 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
Wait. I thought the Civil War was about Vikings?
Caused when Favre went from the Packers to the Vikings?
Jessica - Aug 17, 2010 11:17:16 am PDT #18465 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
I think the nuance is that slavery was not just about morality but about money. So the war was not necessarily because the great northern people wanted to rescue the poor enslaved black people, but also because of money.
But even then, the money in question was mostly property in the form of slaves and agricultural products produced with slave labor. There's really no way to study the Civil War with any degree of intellectual honesty and say with a straight face that "it wasn't about slavery."
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Sophia Brooks - Aug 17, 2010 11:21:12 am PDT #18466 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here
I think the "not about slavery" thing came about as a simplification of the "not about morals", is what I am trying to say. That is, from personal experience, upstate NY schools in the 1980's taught about the Civil War as if every Northern Person was a completely non-racially prejudiced abolishionist on a crusade to free slaves. So it was a little shocking to realize there were other reasons that "it was wrong", at least to me personally. Sort of like discovering that White People coming to american wasn't all Indian Corn and Thanksgiving as it was taught to me.
Aims - Aug 17, 2010 11:23:33 am PDT #18467 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.
White People coming to american wasn't all Indian Corn and Thanksgiving
WTFF?? It's NOT? But the Indians LOVED the Pilgrims and were THANKFUL they brought their domesticated animals and syphilis!!
Jesse - Aug 17, 2010 11:23:39 am PDT #18468 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Yeah, absolutely. If you think "it was about slavery" means "it was to free the slaves, because slavery is wrong" then you've got some truth to learn. That doesn't make it NOT about slavery.
Steph L. - Aug 17, 2010 11:25:32 am PDT #18469 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
WTFF?? It's NOT? But the Indians LOVED the Pilgrims and were THANKFUL they brought their domesticated animals and syphilis!!
The FUNNY syphillis.