I am totally copying you Sue!
ok. I feel good about that room, now on to my room.
You're a bloody puppet! You're a wee little puppet man!
Spike ,'Smile Time'
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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
msbelle - Feb 23, 2010 5:28:44 am PST #10029 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
Jesse - Feb 23, 2010 5:30:56 am PST #10030 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
I have a definite opposition to calling that performing female. I would call that performing feminine.
That's fair, but I do think that the stereotype or whatever is the same thing. The cultural -- not ideal, but maybe vision? of a woman is dolled up. I'm not saying it's always about poufy dresses in the world -- it could be the sexy secretary or whatever.
Sue - Feb 23, 2010 5:31:20 am PST #10031 of 30001
hip deep in pie
I am totally copying you Sue!
My living room always makes me happy. Except when it's a total mess.
§ ita § - Feb 23, 2010 5:34:17 am PST #10032 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I'm not saying it's always about poufy dresses in the world -- it could be the sexy secretary or whatever.
For me it's twofold--I wear skirts more often than not. My recent urges are definitely more than that. My normal look is definitely not androgynous, so feminine is the right adjective.
Also, when I wear jeans, I am also female, and I'm militant about that. Female is my default state, fighting, coding, sci-fi, comics, everything. The stereotype can go fuck itself.
Feminine is the cultural baggage, to me.
Calli - Feb 23, 2010 5:43:00 am PST #10033 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs
I'm inclined to agree with ita. My chromosomes and gender identification (cis) make me female. My use of socially constructed gender identifiers (wearing feminine clothes, makeup, accessories) may also make me look feminine. Or I could dress in a traditionally masculine way, complete with Old Spice bodywash and a Cocky belt buckle, and look somewhat masculine (although probably not very). But I'd still be female.
Amy - Feb 23, 2010 5:44:18 am PST #10034 of 30001
Because books.
Also, when I wear jeans, I am also female, and I'm militant about that. Female is my default state, fighting, coding, sci-fi, comics, everything. The stereotype can go fuck itself.
Feminine is the cultural baggage, to me.
That's a good distinction to make, I think. I do feel very female when I'm dressed as I usually am (jeans, sweaters, boots) but there is a difference in how feminine I feel when I've got on nail polish or I'm wearing a dress.
Steph L. - Feb 23, 2010 5:48:33 am PST #10035 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
I do feel very female
This is something that I think about a lot, for obvious reasons. And my conclusion is, I have NO idea what being female "feels like." (Which is not a slam on you, Amy; it's more my internal maunderings.)
Performing "feminine," I understand. (As well its corollary, performing "masculine.") But feeling female -- I don't know what that means *for me*.
Tom Scola - Feb 23, 2010 5:48:51 am PST #10036 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
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Jesse - Feb 23, 2010 5:50:13 am PST #10037 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Also, when I wear jeans, I am also female, and I'm militant about that. Female is my default state, fighting, coding, sci-fi, comics, everything. The stereotype can go fuck itself.
Sure. That's why I was trying to draw the distinction between being and performing.
Aims - Feb 23, 2010 5:53:35 am PST #10038 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.
Please let me be this awesome when I'm Old As Fuck: [link]