Mal: We're still flying. Simon: That's not much. Mal: It's enough.

'Serenity'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Hil R. - Nov 29, 2009 7:11:50 am PST #21859 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Why would this lefty restaurant I'm at not server real ham? Are pigs treated worse than turkeys? Maybe free-range turkey is available but free range ham not?

I'm pretty sure that pig farms are worse for the environment than most other kinds of industrial agriculture, because pigs produce a lot more waste than most other farmed animals. I'm not positive about that one, though; I just remember that most of the articles I've read about the environmental impact of animal agriculture have focused on pigs.


amych - Nov 29, 2009 7:22:05 am PST #21860 of 30001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Basically, what Hil said. Free-range pork exists (and is deeply awesome, if you eat pork), but it's much less common than free-range poultry. And industrial-scale hog farming is absolutely horrible both in environmental terms and in terms of animal treatment. (Google "hog lagoon". Prepare to gag. Or drive through eastern NC. Gag whether you've prepared yourself for it or not.)

The other factor for a lefty restaurant, depending on the flavor of lefty, is that they may object to the curing chemicals used for readily available cured meats: again, like free-range pork, there are certainly hams that are cured and smoked without a lot of extra preservative action, but it's not the default and the restaurants that serve them tend to brag pretty prominently about "all our cured meats are made for us in our very own smokehouse by $NameOfArtisanDude using pork from $TinyOrganicFarm". If you like pork, cling tightly to such restaurants when you find them. Nom.


tommyrot - Nov 29, 2009 7:23:52 am PST #21861 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

That all makes sense. Too bad pigs make the perfect breakfast food, huh?


aurelia - Nov 29, 2009 7:40:33 am PST #21862 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

tommyrot, were you at the Heartland Cafe?


tommyrot - Nov 29, 2009 7:49:29 am PST #21863 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Yeah. It's about a ten minute walk (or one El stop) from my new place.


DavidS - Nov 29, 2009 8:05:05 am PST #21864 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Silver foxy Meryl for ita


sarameg - Nov 29, 2009 8:53:27 am PST #21865 of 30001

I started a load in the dryer, like an idiot. Now I can't go anywhere until it is done. (Contraption leaves the basement easy to break into.)


Jessica - Nov 29, 2009 9:05:23 am PST #21866 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I'm considering buying ice skates - Dylan loved skating yesterday, so we'll probably make it a weekend activity. Rental skates do horrible things to my knees and arches, and unlike Dylan, my feet aren't going to be a different size every winter for the next 10 years.

So my question to the hive mind is - brand recs? How much should I expect to pay for a decent pair of recreational skates? I can skate forward pretty well but won't be doing anything fancier than that.


DavidS - Nov 29, 2009 9:25:27 am PST #21867 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

How much should I expect to pay for a decent pair of recreational skates?

I bought a pair for JZ several years ago as a Christmas present. I'll have her check for the brand, but I paid about $120 for them. But you can get much cheaper pairs, and better deals online.

Hmmm, looking at that link I think I got her Riedell.


DavidS - Nov 29, 2009 9:34:40 am PST #21868 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

ION, Turkey soup!

I'm feeling very economical since I made this soup with just the meat on the carcass plus one wing, so I didn't have to hit up my supply of sandwich making turkey. It's pretty rich since I was boiling that bone-meat for a good long time and added some of the skin (for the fat).