Zoe: She shot you. Mal: Well, yeah, she did a bit... still --

'Serenity'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Theodosia - Nov 25, 2009 3:22:29 am PST #21273 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I worked with a woman who didn't discover she was pregnant until well in her fifth month -- she was on medication for her alcoholism-induced bleeding ulcers, so she figured her lack of menstruation and other symptoms were related to that. If not for a doctor suspecting something was up, I do believe she'd have been surprised on the day of the birth.

(I also understand that her alcoholic boyfriend subsequently refused to believe it was his kid.)

Lost track of her when she left for maternity leave and I then left the job for better places, but I can only hope mom and baby's story took a better turn from there.


Kat - Nov 25, 2009 3:24:38 am PST #21274 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

My daughter wants to go to a church, and I want to take her, but I'm not sure which one to go to. Not Catholic (sorry), and found the Unitarian Church not spiritual enough. Episcopalian?

Burrell, I have been thinking about taking Noah to All Saints in Pasadena. They do a family oriented service on the second saturday of each month where kids are invited to be part of the entire service.

Anyhow, we should go together. I know Pasadena is a slog for you, but it would definitely be nice to see you.


msbelle - Nov 25, 2009 3:40:49 am PST #21275 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

That census worker found hung with FED written on him? Suicide: [link]


Theodosia - Nov 25, 2009 3:49:21 am PST #21276 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Seriously, I'm suspicious about that convenient conclusion, because it sounds like a truly elaborately staged suicide.

Also, handwriting analysis? Three letters (F E D) written in haste/with emphasis isn't exactly a large enough sample to put a lot of faith in.


Sparky1 - Nov 25, 2009 3:50:57 am PST #21277 of 30001
Librarian Warlord

I can't imagine not knowing I was pregnant, even in those first months - the sway of too much walking made me seasick.

My baby girl has her first cold, and is miserable. I wish I could do more for her.


Theodosia - Nov 25, 2009 3:59:53 am PST #21278 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Sparky, I'm glad for mothers today that laudanum is no longer legal, because it must have been a temptation to dose a miserable kiddo.


Jessica - Nov 25, 2009 4:28:17 am PST #21279 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I can't imagine not knowing, but both of my pregnancies have been planned so I was expecting the symptoms and had the pee-sticks ready to go. I also had such terrible morning sickness both times that if I hadn't suspected pregnancy I'd have gone to a doctor just for that.


Sophia Brooks - Nov 25, 2009 4:31:55 am PST #21280 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

My friend was 3 months pregnant and did not know (she was on birth control and continued getting a period). She had horrible horrible constipation which sent her to the emergency room. She actually was scared she had some sort of abdominal cancer, because she was starting to feel a hard mass. She felt kind of dumb that she had never connected the dots.


Jessica - Nov 25, 2009 4:36:45 am PST #21281 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I can definitely understand someone with no expectation of being pregnant (unnoticed birth control failure), minimal nausea, and erratic periods not knowing until month 7 or so. And if you've gone that long without knowing, I can understand not jumping to the conclusion that those weird stomach cramps are a baby kicking you in the ribs - if you hadn't suspected at all before then, it would be a HUGE leap to suddenly say "Oh, I must be 7 months pregnant!"


Theodosia - Nov 25, 2009 4:37:29 am PST #21282 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

You can carry surprisingly small -- my aunt went in labor to an emergency room and the nurses wouldn't believe she was pregnant. It was my aunt's third delivery, and she was herself a nurse with ER experience, so it must have been an interesting argument....