Sparky, I'm glad for mothers today that laudanum is no longer legal, because it must have been a temptation to dose a miserable kiddo.
Giles: Stop that, you two. Riley: He started it... Xander: He called me a bad name! I think
it was bad; it might have been Latin.
'Selfless'
Natter 64: Yes, we still need you
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Theodosia - Nov 25, 2009 3:59:53 am PST #21278 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
Jessica - Nov 25, 2009 4:28:17 am PST #21279 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
I can't imagine not knowing, but both of my pregnancies have been planned so I was expecting the symptoms and had the pee-sticks ready to go. I also had such terrible morning sickness both times that if I hadn't suspected pregnancy I'd have gone to a doctor just for that.
Sophia Brooks - Nov 25, 2009 4:31:55 am PST #21280 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here
My friend was 3 months pregnant and did not know (she was on birth control and continued getting a period). She had horrible horrible constipation which sent her to the emergency room. She actually was scared she had some sort of abdominal cancer, because she was starting to feel a hard mass. She felt kind of dumb that she had never connected the dots.
Jessica - Nov 25, 2009 4:36:45 am PST #21281 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
I can definitely understand someone with no expectation of being pregnant (unnoticed birth control failure), minimal nausea, and erratic periods not knowing until month 7 or so. And if you've gone that long without knowing, I can understand not jumping to the conclusion that those weird stomach cramps are a baby kicking you in the ribs - if you hadn't suspected at all before then, it would be a HUGE leap to suddenly say "Oh, I must be 7 months pregnant!"
Theodosia - Nov 25, 2009 4:37:29 am PST #21282 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
You can carry surprisingly small -- my aunt went in labor to an emergency room and the nurses wouldn't believe she was pregnant. It was my aunt's third delivery, and she was herself a nurse with ER experience, so it must have been an interesting argument....
tommyrot - Nov 25, 2009 4:41:50 am PST #21283 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
Suddenly, that guy in Alien who didn't know he had an Alien living in his chest makes more sense....
msbelle - Nov 25, 2009 5:00:32 am PST #21284 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
Also, handwriting analysis? Three letters (F E D) written in haste/with emphasis isn't exactly a large enough sample to put a lot of faith in.
What I read was saying the could tell the tape was applied bottom to top. I think, if I read it right, no other DNA found on: gag, tape, or body. Which is not to say it could not be something else.
Tom Scola - Nov 25, 2009 5:07:40 am PST #21285 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
There were also, you know, the threats to commit suicide he gave to his friends and family.
tommyrot - Nov 25, 2009 5:07:49 am PST #21286 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
Heh.
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Jessica - Nov 25, 2009 5:42:48 am PST #21287 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
I think I'm going to take up a collection to hire the TIAA Cref cafeteria workers who have been protesting across the street for the past THREE WEEKS. I don't even need them to do any actual work, I just want the drum-beating and whistle-blowing and "honk if you support union labor" honking to STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP. I'm a huge supporter of unions and I hope they win, but HOLY MOTHER OF GOD THE WHISTLES.