My work's illegal, but at least it's honest.

Mal ,'Shindig'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Trudy Booth - Nov 24, 2009 9:11:23 pm PST #21265 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Trudy Booth - Nov 24, 2009 9:11:24 pm PST #21266 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Here's a good list: [link]

Personally, I've always been deeply paranoid about an accidental pregnancy. It's amazing to me that someone wouldn't know.


Burrell - Nov 24, 2009 9:17:09 pm PST #21267 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I guess it's hard for me to think outside the very physical memories I have of being hugely pregnant and to imagine a pregnancy in which all the symptoms were muted and subtle enough that you might not notice them. I mean, sure, the first 4 months or so I could see zipping by. Maybe even 5 months. It's the full term part that throws me.


Glamcookie - Nov 24, 2009 11:11:10 pm PST #21268 of 30001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

At 35 weeks PG, I seriously can't imagine not knowing. It feels like I have an alien in my stomach, just itching to bust out!


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Nov 24, 2009 11:35:35 pm PST #21269 of 30001
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

My daughter wants to go to a church, and I want to take her, but I'm not sure which one to go to. Not Catholic (sorry), and found the Unitarian Church not spiritual enough. Episcopalian?

I'm late on this one, Burrell and JZ, but I'm an Episopalian (Anglican, in Britain) and I love my church. The Anglical Communion is having some major issues lately (particularly around things that interest me, of necessity), but I've found a church home that is liberal, full of beautiful ritual that makes me very happy, and as diverse and interesting a congregation as you could want. And the priest* is doing the blessing at our civil partnership ceremony. It's possible to find all manner of views and styles within the Episcopalian church - it's literally a very broad church. Plus, in the US, it's famously liberal.

Moving on from a church isn't always the right thing for everyone who finds their church/denomination difficult, but sometimes it is. As JZ says regarding toxic church relationships.

*There's a whole sub-section of the British Anglican church which considers itself Anglo-Catholic (i.e. never changed much post-Henry VIII). We're practically Catholic, but usually more liberal and not run by the Pope. This compromise position works very well for me - but I don't know if it exists outside of Britain.

I adored the Muppet video.

Congrats to msbelle and mac!


sumi - Nov 25, 2009 3:04:53 am PST #21270 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

ita - I loved that Sherlock Holmes promo! It does look totally cracktastic - I cannot wait.


Steph L. - Nov 25, 2009 3:17:58 am PST #21271 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

At 35 weeks PG, I seriously can't imagine not knowing. It feels like I have an alien in my stomach, just itching to bust out!

Once, when my mom and I were talking about the woman-who-didn't-know-she-was-pregnant phenomenon, my mom said, "I don't see how that's possible; after 6 or 7 months, it's like you have a little ham rolling around in there!"

That's me: Mommy's Little Ham.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Nov 25, 2009 3:20:19 am PST #21272 of 30001
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

"I don't see how that's possible; after 6 or 7 months, it's like you have a little ham rolling around in there!"

If ever I need reminding that pregnancy really probably isn't for me, I shall remember that one.


Theodosia - Nov 25, 2009 3:22:29 am PST #21273 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I worked with a woman who didn't discover she was pregnant until well in her fifth month -- she was on medication for her alcoholism-induced bleeding ulcers, so she figured her lack of menstruation and other symptoms were related to that. If not for a doctor suspecting something was up, I do believe she'd have been surprised on the day of the birth.

(I also understand that her alcoholic boyfriend subsequently refused to believe it was his kid.)

Lost track of her when she left for maternity leave and I then left the job for better places, but I can only hope mom and baby's story took a better turn from there.


Kat - Nov 25, 2009 3:24:38 am PST #21274 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

My daughter wants to go to a church, and I want to take her, but I'm not sure which one to go to. Not Catholic (sorry), and found the Unitarian Church not spiritual enough. Episcopalian?

Burrell, I have been thinking about taking Noah to All Saints in Pasadena. They do a family oriented service on the second saturday of each month where kids are invited to be part of the entire service.

Anyhow, we should go together. I know Pasadena is a slog for you, but it would definitely be nice to see you.