One of the reasons it didn't feel like a Star Trek movie is that the alien worlds actually look alien more than artificial. Okay, as well at. And I do also get the feeling that land, at least, extends further than I can see it, where as on TV, it mostly feels no more than one meter wider than the widest pan--it would have been a dream for some pretty funky matte paintings even back in the day, but normally it feels more like a spaceship show than a space exploration show.

If you could inject a sense of scale into the terrestrial encounters on TV, well, it would be over budget before you've signed a single actor.

As far as the yell of Khaaaaaan--they got all the required lines, right? No matter who said them.

It was fun, there were a few bits of "oh, so that's how that's going to be addressed in the third act" which really make me impatient, as well as deflating the emotion.

Mah emotion point was Hobbity--when Chekov popped (weird to talk about "Chekov's [insert apropos device here]" when Chekov's on board) did his day-saving bit in Engineering and appearing from nowhwere with his pre-teen face and everything..

Some shots reminded me of shots in Inception, but less cool. Way less cool. I got more of a sense of continual destruction than I did of lives lost in any battle--ratings, maybe?

I've seen every Trek episode other than Enterprise, but most of the things I like, the executions I like, are TNG and later.

It's unfortunate, PR-wise that Gene Roddenberry said his epitome of humanity would not be a white guy.

Hmmph. I fairly well enjoyed it, definitely worth the price of admission. My largest issue of the move was the screaming. Not the unintentionally funny yell of a word by Spock, but both Uhura and the other chick scream a couple times. Can we do that less?

Yeah, I don't think the required line was necessary at all. But I don't think the scene in which that yell occur should have occurred at all.

I've seen every Trek episode other than Enterprise, but most of the things I like, the executions I like, are TNG and later.

Me too, ita.

The funniest thing at our showing happened while the credits were rolling. An older American woman in the row behind us said, "Am I supposed to know who Benedict Cumberbatch is?" She pronounced "-batch" really weirdly, sort of like "baaahtch". She said it again. "Am I supposed to know who Benedict Cumberbaahtch is?!".

I briefly considered turning around and saying, "So, don't watch much British TV, do you?", but I was suppressing laughter too hard so I let her be. I do hope she's IMDb'd by now.

I loved the Trekkiness of the new movie and most of the execution (particularly liked the scenes where Khan and Spock are running through SF). The relentless lens flare and the martial nature of the film bothered me a bit; one sodding action sequence after another. OK! I get it already! I really really do hope they go more explore-y for the next one. Though with Abrams moving to Star Wars, who knows when a next one will be? I expect somebody else will direct it.

I do think the tying in of the new Trekverse to the old and filling the movies with in-jokes for the oldies and other stuff for the newbies is one of the new franchises' strengths. My favourite was: Kirk: "Go put on a red shirt". Chekov: gulps .

An older American woman in the row behind us said, "Am I supposed to know who Benedict Cumberbatch is?"

In the grand scheme of things, madame, no not really. He's just an actor. It's not all that important, when you really think about it. Supposed to know how to go about your daily business, take care of yourself, do your job, or what to do in case of fire? Probably yes. Supposed to know who Benedict Cumberbatch is? A matter of priority and personal preference, I guess. But this conversation has gotten awfully weighty for apres-cinema discussion, wouldn't you say?

I guess I didn't really say last night that I liked it -- I have no real tie to the TV series (I don't think I've ever seen an entire episode of any of the iterations of the TV series) or the movies, though I've seen a handful of the movies (Wrath of Khan was ubiquitous on cable when I was a kid).

I think the plot was a little weak, and yet it still made more sense than the bad guy's M.O. in Iron Man 3.

I really like the cast -- I think stepping into the roles from TOS must have been daunting as hell, but honestly, Pine and Quinto and Urban are really fantastic. (I guess that's more of a comment related to the rebooted franchise as a whole, but still, it struck me last night how they weren't trying to ape Shatner and Nimoy and Kelley -- some dialogue aside -- but still inhabited the characters in a way that was familiar.)

It was entertaining, definitely. I just don't think the film earned the Khaaaaaaaan bellow or, really the inversion of the Wrath of Khan death scene.

Also, that far in the future, would "Throw me under the bus" still be slang, with the exact same meaning?

Probably not but we have some very silly slang that no longer works I the current vernacular.

Honestly though if you open that can of worms it's probably too easy to understand most of what they are saying considering the changed language tends to make over hundreds of years.

I'm actually not a fan of Chris Pine's Kirk. Mostly it's the voice - whatever else you can say about Shatner, his voice is commanding. Pine's is so high and squeaky in comparison that lines like "I was authorized to end you!" just come off like a whiny teen trying to sound like a real grown-up.

I'm trying to think of an equivalent 300 year-old slang term that we still use today. I guess in the 24th century they still do have buses, so maybe it would have persisted?

We still say "dead as a doornail," which is apparently from Shakespeare, and what's a doornail, anyway? (I gooogled up this.)

I briefly considered turning around and saying, "So, don't watch much British TV, do you?", but I was suppressing laughter too hard so I let her be. I do hope she's IMDb'd by now.

My cousin didn't know who he was -- she was like "Ohhhh" when I said Sherlock.

but still, it struck me last night how they weren't trying to ape Shatner and Nimoy and Kelley -- some dialogue aside -- but still inhabited the characters in a way that was familiar.

That must be a change for Urban in this movie. He full-out Jim Carrey/Andy Kaufmanned Deforest Kelley in the first movie. It was amazingly good, but freaky.