I'm actually not a fan of Chris Pine's Kirk. Mostly it's the voice - whatever else you can say about Shatner, his voice is commanding. Pine's is so high and squeaky in comparison that lines like "I was authorized to end you!" just come off like a whiny teen trying to sound like a real grown-up.

I'm trying to think of an equivalent 300 year-old slang term that we still use today. I guess in the 24th century they still do have buses, so maybe it would have persisted?

We still say "dead as a doornail," which is apparently from Shakespeare, and what's a doornail, anyway? (I gooogled up this.)

I briefly considered turning around and saying, "So, don't watch much British TV, do you?", but I was suppressing laughter too hard so I let her be. I do hope she's IMDb'd by now.

My cousin didn't know who he was -- she was like "Ohhhh" when I said Sherlock.

but still, it struck me last night how they weren't trying to ape Shatner and Nimoy and Kelley -- some dialogue aside -- but still inhabited the characters in a way that was familiar.

That must be a change for Urban in this movie. He full-out Jim Carrey/Andy Kaufmanned Deforest Kelley in the first movie. It was amazingly good, but freaky.

But this conversation has gotten awfully weighty for apres-cinema discussion, wouldn't you say?

Sean, that was exactly my point. The phrasing was so weird. (Well, that and the pronunciation). Of course she wasn't supposed to know who BC was. But he obviously made such an impression, she felt like she was missing out somehow, or something.

The man has that effect on people.

but still, it struck me last night how they weren't trying to ape Shatner and Nimoy and Kelley -- some dialogue aside -- but still inhabited the characters in a way that was familiar.

That must be a change for Urban in this movie. He full-out Jim Carrey/Andy Kaufmanned Deforest Kelley in the first movie. It was amazingly good, but freaky.

Well, Urban didn't strike me as being a freaky (but good) version of DeForest Kelley, and I'm sure that largely has to do with how little Star Trek (TOS and the movies) I've watched. So it's entirely possible he continued the freaky in STiD, and I just don't see it in his performance.

Unrelated to Karl Urban, I noticed in the credits, Chris Hemsworth was listed in the credits as George Kirk. I didn't leave the movie to pee (so I saw the whole thing), but I don't remember him at all. Was it when Kirk was waking up, you know, post-death, and the audio was a bunch of snippets of dialogue? Was some of that maybe George Kirk? Because otherwise I don't know why Hemsworth made it into the credits.

(In other words, if I see Thor's name in the credits, I would like to see his fine, fine ass on the screen please.)

Also -- was there a post-credits scene? Because the friends we saw it with pulled out their smartphones, consulted the internet, said that whatever site they were looking at said there was no post-credits scene, and then booked out of there.

If Nick Fury showed up to have a badass coat throwdown with Khan and I missed it, I will cry.

Yeah, Steph, I'm pretty sure some of the audio snippets were The Hems from the first movie.

Man, residuals have to be a sweet deal.

But I would have preferred some fine fine Hemsworth ass on my screen.

...sometimes I think I'm not really a very DEEP cinema-goer.

There wasn't anything after the credits at either of the screenings I attended.

Cool. I just wanted to be sure.