If she was hot, I might try at it a bit longer. But... I dunno.

If you apply Barney Stinson's hot/crazy scale that's probably the outcome.

I don't think that cheating in college means that she will cheat on someone later in life. I have no idea what she will or won't do. I have lots and lots of friends with way different ethics and or values than I do. I'm just really picky about anything that is more than fiends. It is not the way for everyone, but I never dated anyone for more than 6 months until DH. Value wise , we have a lot of the same things that are of the same importance. Politically, we are different. I fall more and more into the liberal with a touch of socialism tinged by practicality. DH is a radical -- it doesn't matter where he stands on an issue , he takes a more extreme stance. and some of those are on the conservative side.

I guess what I am saying is you get enought things that flag you so you don't want to kiss the girl., don't.

yay Barb!!

and that was an article about romance writers that I wanted to read!

Following 45-minutes of hold time, the way to endear me to your bank is NOT putting me on hold several times more, coming back five times in between just to clarify a situation that I've explained about ten times now, and apparently being unable to apologise for the wrong statements OR to answer whether this might be a security risk OR to acknowledge that your statements are completely inaccessible to this particular dyslexic & dyspraxic customer.

Is it just the UK where customer service is going to hell in a tea kettle, or is it everywhere else too? I've had so many similar experiences recently.

*noises akin to those that might be inspired by strangulation*

(Not so much with the swearing, but with not patronizing businesses whose names contain deliberate misspellings, such as Kountry Kitchen.)

I love you a lot for this.

How old is she/how long has she been out of college? Because I did some *seriously* stupid shit in college that I'm not proud of now, and if that disqualified me as a potential long-term partner, I'd be living in a cave right now.

True. But it sounds like she said it with pride or indifference, not shame. When you talk about the time you did X, it's with a sheepish grin and an eyeroll at yourself, so the person knows that you know that you were a dumbass. It doesn't sound like that's what she did.

I could be wrong, but my impression from Omnis' post was that she WAS proud of it, which to me is a much bigger flag than her having done it in the first place.

good, not just me.

I've done *seriously* inappropriate shit that might lead people (apparently many Buffistas) to consider I lack ethics and integrity.

but you characterize it as inappropriate, which means that you recognize that it's negative behavior.

Sure, I did things I would never do today, but it doesn't mean I don't sometimes still get a laugh out of them recounting the tales.

yes, but you tell the story in such a way that it's clear that you know that you shouldn't have done it, right?

Is it just the UK where customer service is going to hell in a tea kettle, or is it everywhere else too?

It's everywhere. Or at least in the US too.

Except we here in the US don't go to hell in a tea kettle. We go to hell in a bucket.

Speak for yourself. I go to hell in a handbasket, or occasionally on I-40.

I mostly go to hell via the M1 through central London. There's a portal at junction 29 just south of Leeds.

neocon? barooo?

wOOt barb!

Barb gets name-checked in this Wired article.

And picture-checked! Cool!

Hee! Isn't that a gas? What a fun article! Thanks, Tom, for pointing it out.