You know, it's funny. We went to war never looking to come back, but it's the real world I couldn't survive.

Tracy ,'The Message'


Spike's Bitches 44: It's about the rules having changed.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Jessica - Jul 23, 2009 3:42:48 am PDT #17504 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Because I did some *seriously* stupid shit in college that I'm not proud of now, and if that disqualified me as a potential long-term partner, I'd be living in a cave right now.

I could be wrong, but my impression from Omnis' post was that she WAS proud of it, which to me is a much bigger flag than her having done it in the first place.


Jessica - Jul 23, 2009 3:43:12 am PDT #17505 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Also, {{Cindy}}.


Steph L. - Jul 23, 2009 3:48:33 am PDT #17506 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I could be wrong, but my impression from Omnis' post was that she WAS proud of it

I didn't get that from what he said, but I was also uncaffeinated when I read it.

Anyway, I have no dog in this hunt, but I have to say, I've done *seriously* inappropriate shit that might lead people (apparently many Buffistas) to consider I lack ethics and integrity. Extrapolating from that, some might think that my past behavior means that I'll cheat on my current partner.

Which is why I say, thank goodness for second chances and having a partner who actually believes that I hold myself to a higher standard now.


Laura - Jul 23, 2009 3:52:55 am PDT #17507 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

It is likely that many of us would rather not be judged on the folly of youth. I have done seriously inappropriate things and believe I have learned from past mistakes.


Jessica - Jul 23, 2009 3:53:32 am PDT #17508 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I guess I didn't think it would be a red flag if she'd presented the story as "Here's a stupid thing I did when I was 18."


Barb - Jul 23, 2009 4:12:53 am PDT #17509 of 30000
“Not dead yet!”

We all have stuff we're embarrassed about in our past-- it makes us human. I think the thing that gives me pause is that she's mentioning it in such an offhand sort of way, which is how it came across to me in omnis' recounting. Certainly, if I was in the early days of what I thought might be a potential relationship, this is not something I'd be bringing up in an offhand manner, but rather, if it came up at all, in a "Wow, I was really freakin' stupid" sort of way.

It just seems like a strange thing to be bringing up, I guess. I mean, I know you want someone to like you warts and all, but that's not how it came across to me.

Long-winded way of saying, context is definitely important here.


Volans - Jul 23, 2009 4:33:19 am PDT #17510 of 30000
move out and draw fire

I think I'm going to adopt erica's statement: I'd rather date a furry than a neocon.

Can you respect her, omnis? Do you think she'll respect your ethical and political and religious beliefs? Because if not, then I'd say scrap this one and keep looking.


Fred Pete - Jul 23, 2009 4:38:27 am PDT #17511 of 30000
Ann, that's a ferret.

((((Cindy and family))))


Fred Pete - Jul 23, 2009 4:41:47 am PDT #17512 of 30000
Ann, that's a ferret.

It is likely that many of us would rather not be judged on the folly of youth. I have done seriously inappropriate things and believe I have learned from past mistakes.

Same here. Ultimately, I sit with the "there's a difference between 'stupid think I did when I was 18' and 'here's how I gamed the system for fun and profit'" crowd. But my college indiscretions, pretty much by definition, all happened more than 20 years ago.


Nora Deirdre - Jul 23, 2009 4:46:19 am PDT #17513 of 30000
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

Cindy, much ~ma to your family.

I am having a very bad no-good day. The only thing that is keeping me from going home and crawling into bed is that I will be meeting up with Buffistas after work. Also, since I lost my train pass, I would have to buy a ticket.