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Xander ,'Selfless'


Spike's Bitches 44: It's about the rules having changed.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Laura - Jul 20, 2009 5:55:24 am PDT #17194 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

Beautiful color for you, Barb.


Steph L. - Jul 20, 2009 5:56:18 am PDT #17195 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I have a serious question, thanks to my overwhelming dislike of conflict/displeasing people:

Among our group of friends, being touchy-feely is the norm, including hugging people in greeting and farewell. What other people do with each other doesn't bug me, but I'm moving more and more towards wanting fairly solid boundaries, and that's come to include I-Like-You-And-Consider-You-A-Friend-But-Please-Don't-Hug-Me.

So how do I express that without coming across as a total dick? These are people who, given the predilection for hugging, I have in fact hugged in the past (or let hug me), and now changing the game is going to seem really weird and bitchy.

But I feel really strongly about this. My boundaries. Mine. My physical self. Mine. Look, I've even decreased the size of my personal bubble from 25 feet to 20, so there's some improvement...

(The last sentence was a joke.)

(My personal bubble is actually 50 feet.)


Steph L. - Jul 20, 2009 5:57:55 am PDT #17196 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

That was also not a veiled scenario about Buffistas, to be clear. (Because I know I've talked about my issues with large groups, like the F2F, before.) It's totally meatspace people, mostly kinky, who skew towards the stereotype of being indiscriminately touchy-feely and huggy.


Hil R. - Jul 20, 2009 5:59:16 am PDT #17197 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

What I usually do in those situations, Steph, is just take a step back while putting on a HUGE smile and say "Great to see you!" or something similarly very enthusiastic.


Tom Scola - Jul 20, 2009 6:00:17 am PDT #17198 of 30000
hwæt

Taser.


Barb - Jul 20, 2009 6:01:08 am PDT #17199 of 30000
“Not dead yet!”

Taser

As usual, Scola is wise.


tommyrot - Jul 20, 2009 6:01:10 am PDT #17200 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Taser.

Ooh. That's better than my idea, which was "cat-urine perfume."


Steph L. - Jul 20, 2009 6:01:20 am PDT #17201 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

What I usually do in those situations, Steph, is just take a step back while putting on a HUGE smile and say "Great to see you!" or something similarly very enthusiastic.

I do that, often trying to be holding something (so that my arms are full and therefore cannot hug), but you'd be surprised at the number of people who lunge toward me with outspread arms despite what I thought was a clear Don't-Hug-Me-Or-I'll-Need-Ativan signal.


Vortex - Jul 20, 2009 6:01:58 am PDT #17202 of 30000
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Heh. Tep, I can tell you that as a hugger (who has hugged you without your consent and I still feel bad*), I would really hate to learn that I had inadvertently made someone I care about and like feel badly. So, I say that you should let people know because they don't want to make you uncomfortable and would feel badly if they knew that they did.

Given your dislike of conflict, I would enlist The Boy to let people know. Something along the lines of "you know, Steph really likes you, but FYI, she doesn't like to be hugged unless she initiates it. I'm pretty much the only one who can do it. She feels really bad about it because she likes you, and doesn't want it to be awkward, so I've decided to let people know."

* I know it's okay, but I still don't like that I was that clueless and caused you discomfort.


Steph L. - Jul 20, 2009 6:02:23 am PDT #17203 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Taser.

Or rig up my clothes with the system Batman uses so that if he's unconscious and someone tries to unmask him, they get a severe shock.

It would be effective, geeky, AND cool.