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StuntHusband - Jul 13, 2009 10:21:53 am PDT #16464 of 30000
Electromagnetic candy! - Stark

Oh come on, without Luthian we wouldn't have Aragorn or Elrond!

Pish. :) Illogical extreme: without Illuvatar, we wouldn't have the *world* for the story to take place.

Luthien is the centerpiece of a different work - the Quenta Silmarillion. She's no more significant to the story of LotR than Arvedui Lastking is; just another ancestor (illustrious, without question) of Aragorn. (And all these Halfelf marriages are so incestuous - Elros is Aragorn's umpteen-gazillionth granddad, and is Elrond's brother. So Arwen is Aragorn's 1st cousin.)

Luthien (and Beren) make me cry; that's what's on the Tolkiens' tombstones; that's how he thought of her. (Tearing up typing this; I'm so mushy inside.)

sumi - Jul 13, 2009 10:25:18 am PDT #16465 of 30000
Art Crawl!!!

Yeah, first cousin many times removed. (I'm not sure how much that matters. Of course, it probably depends on how much that family on the human side intermarried. I really can't recall that.)

-t - Jul 13, 2009 10:25:49 am PDT #16466 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Arwen is Aragorn's 1st cousin.

Umpteen-gazillion times removed

(Consanguinity x-post, nice)

beth b - Jul 13, 2009 10:31:11 am PDT #16467 of 30000
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

wow

what does it mean when I followed the asshook conversation with less effort than the Tolkin conversation.

StuntHusband - Jul 13, 2009 10:31:30 am PDT #16468 of 30000
Electromagnetic candy! - Stark

Of course, it probably depends on how much that family on the human side intermarried.

I'm not sure it's delineated; Tolkien was (apparently; the MSS of "The Silmarillion" are unrevealed at this point, so what we have is filtered through Christopher's editing) taking a very broad, Biblical-style approach to those begettings. Long lines of ruling Kings and Queens, but nothing else about their families. The presumption is that, since the lifespans go from Methuselah (almost exactly - 900-some-odd for Elros Tar-Minyatur) to the "lesser" Mannish of about 80, the ruling line had married outside of the nobility extensively.

I think Tolkien wasn't concerned about consanguinity; they're effectively different *species*. :) Humans, and "what humans should be".

smonster - Jul 13, 2009 10:34:45 am PDT #16469 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

what does it mean when I followed the asshook conversation with less effort than the Tolkin conversation.

ilu, beth.

Gudanov - Jul 13, 2009 10:36:56 am PDT #16470 of 30000
Coding and Sleeping

Well, the word asshook is fairly self-explanatory.

StuntHusband - Jul 13, 2009 10:40:00 am PDT #16471 of 30000
Electromagnetic candy! - Stark

Well, the word asshook is fairly self-explanatory.

Are you suggesting...?

Ahem. Well, you'd be right, of course.

Volans - Jul 13, 2009 10:41:28 am PDT #16472 of 30000
move out and draw fire

Well, the word asshook is fairly self-explanatory.

And also the name of one of the Orc chieftains in LotR.

Jessica - Jul 13, 2009 10:41:40 am PDT #16473 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Now we just need someone to translate the word "asshook" into Sindarin and we'll have come full circle.

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