And remember, if you hurt her, I will beat you to death with a shovel.

Willow ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Spike's Bitches 44: It's about the rules having changed.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Steph L. - Jun 29, 2009 9:50:36 am PDT #14540 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Do you think that putting a warning on fanfic (not books) about something like rape is compromising the writer's artistic integrity?

Oh hell no.

Then I admit I'm confused about your previous comment. I was never talking about content in fic.


P.M. Marc - Jun 29, 2009 9:56:33 am PDT #14541 of 30000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

The amount of "but I don't wanna!" in the fact of people's very real pain has depressed the hell out of me. And continues to do so.

I've seen some I don't wanna!, but mostly from established tools. What I've seen mostly, and granted, this is mainly where/what meta I read, is the desire to look at the potential unintended consequences surrounding some of the suggested implimentations.

I warn if the content seems to demand it. In communities, in my personal space, wherever. I'm very, however, wary of the expectation that warnings be considered an obligation in all spaces, and uncomfortable with the notion that doing so is cost-free or low cost to the author, and that shaming people who do not hold the same beliefs is acceptable. I know too many people with triggers related to behavior/expression control from emotional or physical abuse to *EVER* think that.


-t - Jun 29, 2009 9:56:56 am PDT #14542 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I think I see. Sounds rough.


Barb - Jun 29, 2009 10:16:01 am PDT #14543 of 30000
“Not dead yet!”

Then I admit I'm confused about your previous comment. I was never talking about content in fic.

I think I still had in mind what connie, I think, had said, about being in the midst of writing and taking into account whether or not what she was writing would be potentially disturbing.

And the fact that I'm still on Sudafed and probably am bollocksing everything up.


javachik - Jun 29, 2009 10:23:25 am PDT #14544 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

I have a strong reaction (and nightmares) to anything involving animal abuse (just Dexter talking about it in the first episode turned me away from that series forever) and I am forever grateful that reviews warned me about (the movie) Amores Perros. So I can see why people would like a little warning if there's something graphic, but I can't imagine expecting an author to outline every single possibility of offensive/triggerish content.


Connie Neil - Jun 29, 2009 10:26:20 am PDT #14545 of 30000
brillig

I think I still had in mind what connie, I think, had said, about being in the midst of writing and taking into account whether or not what she was writing would be potentially disturbing.

Regarding that, I've been mulling and don't think it will change what I write. If there has to be blood, blood will flow. I think if there's a situation where I'm doubtful that the milieu make something obvious--if it's a Supernatural story, odds are there's going to be demons and attendant nastiness--I'll go with the whitefont warning. That way someone with a psyche the texture of boiled leather can ignore it and someone else can check to be sure.


P.M. Marc - Jun 29, 2009 10:32:39 am PDT #14546 of 30000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

So I can see why people would like a little warning if there's something graphic, but I can't imagine expecting an author to outline every single possibility of offensive/triggerish content.

The BSC appears to be warn for the Big Known Ones. There's not really a request for every author to warn for every known trigger.


javachik - Jun 29, 2009 10:33:13 am PDT #14547 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

The BSC appears to be warn for the Big Known Ones. There's not really a request for every author to warn for every known trigger.

That seems pretty reasonable then!

ETA: I've got no dog in this fight (npi) since I don't read fanfic.


Steph L. - Jun 29, 2009 10:40:11 am PDT #14548 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

And the fact that I'm still on Sudafed and probably am bollocksing everything up.

That behind-the-counter stuff will getcha.


Polter-Cow - Jun 29, 2009 10:49:53 am PDT #14549 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

The BSC appears to be warn for the Big Known Ones.

The Babysitters Club books are full of rape and abuse now?