I've not read much of it at all, myself. What very little I read made me think: "Huh...I ought to think about including warnings for triggery scenes in the future."
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I can't stop reading stuff about the fanfic warnings kerfailfuffle. It's mesmerizing.
Oh, my god, stop reading. People have failed so hard.
oh, dear. do I want to know?
Some authors don't post warnings even if their fic includes rape/child abuse/torture, etc. One big reason they cite is that such warnings "spoil" the fic. And they think that their artistic integrity is paramount over rape survivors' actual trauma.
Rape survivors are saying, wow, do you know that if a fic doesn't have a warning, I assume there's nothing to be wary of, and then when I click through to your rapefic, it triggers me?
Anti-warning people are saying, stop whining, rape survivors, and if you click something without a warning, it's your own fault (like, say, if you wore a short skirt and got raped, it's your own fault). Also suggesting that maybe rape survivors need therapy to get over their issues.
There's also a very big misunderstanding wherein "trigger" is being equated with "stuff that I personally don't like." And rape survivors are saying, do you even KNOW what being triggered actually means?
Oh! And the slippery-slope fallacy, wherein anti-warning people are saying, but but but, if I have to warn for rape and child abuse, then soon I'll have to warn for the color orange! (That's an actual argument.)
Pro-warning people are saying, wow, is it that hard to be a decent human being?
And apparently it is.
Oh, my god, stop reading. People have failed so hard.
Man, I was so impressed with Zvi during RaceFail, and now I just keep cringing at her posts. Gah.
Oh dear. See, that just makes me want to go and play catchup, in a masochistic fashion.
I must admit, I generally don't give much thought to warnings, coming from a vague books-don't-do-this-shit mindset (and quite liking stories to surprise me - provided the surprise isn't bad prose or poor characterisation - I mean, I'm good with character death, or whatever, provided it's written convincingly), but the first thing (almost only thing) in the kerfuffle that I read was a very compelling essay by a woman who's a survivor of quite appalling abuse, and it was pretty much a sledgehammer of cluestickdom that, hey, I should think about including warnings.
if I have to warn for rape and child abuse, then soon I'll have to warn for the color orange!
Argh! Your use of the word "orange" is freaking me out, man! You should have warned me!
You KNOW that I don't like the color orange!!!
Yes, seems like it...I don't get what's so hard about that. You need people to know what they're getting, without, hopefully, giving the story away too much. The end. But of course, I've never really needed much warning until I started ficcing HBO. I put one up about the cursing, just in case. I don't want all the blame for what comes out of Ari Gold's mouth.ETA: I think it's terrible that anyone is fighting abuse victims on that. Because "triggering" someone might mean "give them horrible nightmares for a week" or something, which, even though I like hard-boiled murder stories, I'd feel really badly about. Think of the warnings as part of the trailer, people.
but the first thing (almost only thing) in the kerfuffle that I read was a very compelling essay by a woman who's a survivor of quite appalling abuse
That was...I have no words for it. What she went through was unthinkable, and that she was willing to post about it makes me think she's about the strongest person on the planet.
a vague books-don't-do-this-shit mindset
But, with books, someone with triggers can at least go to Amazon, and most of the time, the reviews will include vague allusions to (but also sometimes spoilery descriptions of) big ugly triggery stuff. So if that reader wanted info, they could get it. Fanfic doesn't have that equivalent.
I can see both sides of that kerfuffle (well, obviously not the extremely assy behaviors). I wouldn't want to give away plot points and screw up my foreshadowing (Is this the scary dramatic part? Is THIS the scary dramatic part?) but people shouldn't be risking nightmares and panic attacks over some light reading either.
Is there any talk of adopting a Not!Warning warning? Something along the lines of: For creative purposes I do not give warnings on my stories. Please ask a friend who is aware of your concerns to read it first.