Oh, wow. This place looks great. Oh, I feel like a witch in a magic shop.

Willow ,'Help'


Spike's Bitches 44: It's about the rules having changed.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


DCJensen - Jun 26, 2009 12:56:37 pm PDT #14261 of 30000
All is well that ends in pizza.

I also saw my doctor today for my diabetes checkup. She said I was doing well and I don't have to see her for six months.

My total Cholesterol is now 113. (61 for ldl, 39 for hdl.)and my A1c dropped to 7.2. not as good as I'd like, but a couple of points better than it was.

I baffled another new nurse with my weight and yet having a pulse of 63. Sorry Nurse, not every fat person fits the stereotype.


Aims - Jun 26, 2009 1:02:22 pm PDT #14262 of 30000
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I kind of do agree with her, if for no other reason that if the Catholic Church couldn't keep a lid on for as long as they would have liked, then MJ's estate might not be able to, either.


DavidS - Jun 26, 2009 1:20:38 pm PDT #14263 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Let me put it this way, there's no disputation about the fact that MJ did sleep with minor boys. He got into bed with them and snuggled.

Now, the tendency is to think this is the lesser transgression, compared to having sexual contact with the boys. Which is true. However, the fact that he would initiate intimate physical contact with them is a huge marker on the profile of a pedophile. Because he's already leapt over the the clearly marked cultural boundary which forbids adult men from snuggling with young boys that aren't their children.

So, he had no restraint on this boundary of physical intimacy and we know he wanted to initiate contact with young boys and we have multiple allegations from a variety of credible sources that he went even further.

That's the profile of somebody with pedophile tendencies.

For what it's worth, Sean, I also have personal experience with false accusations and recovered memories. Not directed at me, but EM's father was accused by EM's sister, based entirely on recovered memories (even though the false memories were contradicted by provable fact and records). It was devastating to the whole family, and I read up on the subject a lot. There's a devastating TAL piece on it ("Ask the Experts" I think).


Hil R. - Jun 26, 2009 1:28:05 pm PDT #14264 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

On a totally different topic, somewhat interesting article: [link]

Pop’s parents [see footnote], both 24, made a decision when their baby was born to keep Pop’s sex a secret. Aside from a select few – those who have changed the child’s diaper – nobody knows Pop’s gender; if anyone enquires, Pop’s parents simply say they don’t disclose this information.


Polter-Cow - Jun 26, 2009 1:30:48 pm PDT #14265 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Well, that will be an interesting little sociology experiment, I guess.


Hil R. - Jun 26, 2009 1:39:43 pm PDT #14266 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Yeah. I'm not sure it's fair to make a kid into a sociology experiment, though.


erikaj - Jun 26, 2009 1:41:34 pm PDT #14267 of 30000
"already on the kiss-cam with Karl Marx"-

I think he did it. Either way, though, "Thriller's" kind of ruined for me by published accounts of "Jesus juice" and what-have-you. Which makes me sad, not that I would expect to still love my preteen tunes the same. ETA: And I'm not sure where he fits on the moral spectrum


Polter-Cow - Jun 26, 2009 1:44:08 pm PDT #14268 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I'm not sure it's fair to make a kid into a sociology experiment, though.

Look how Jilli turned out.


beth b - Jun 26, 2009 1:53:56 pm PDT #14269 of 30000
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

It looks like my new laptop will be arriving today or monday. It is on the truck. I am waiting.....


omnis_audis - Jun 26, 2009 1:57:46 pm PDT #14270 of 30000
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

I do know that I currently weigh too much for my knees and back, etc,
ditto. I need to drop some weight. I'm surprised with all the walking last week I wasn't more winded. But my knee was feeling it at times.

ION, I haz sandals! REI started a sale today, and the one I was eyeing was on sale. Thanks to worker bee who told me that yesterday. Now I'm waiting to get a haircut.