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Spike's Bitches 44: It's about the rules having changed.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Polter-Cow - Jun 23, 2009 7:15:10 am PDT #13607 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Opening a door without asking is probably OK in most cases (not all)

I open/hold the door for everyone, regardless of gender or abledness, so I hope it's okay!


brenda m - Jun 23, 2009 7:15:16 am PDT #13608 of 30000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I think that is the basic thing: asking. I think it is almost never inappropriate to ask (probably some exceptions). It is providing the help without asking that is inappropriate.

I'd go a step farther. To coast off of sj's experience this morning, I would guess that "need a hand" or "can I help you with anything" is not at all the same thing as "can I get you a wheelchair?" But I wouldn't assume something like "can I get that [door or suitcase or whatever] to be automatically objectionable, maybe because it's so task-specific? Hmmm.

Not that this morning's asshole even went that far. And as so often, what it seems to come down to is basic respect and *not assuming you know better what someone needs than they do*. This really shouldn't be that hard a concept.


beekaytee - Jun 23, 2009 7:33:53 am PDT #13609 of 30000
Compassionately intolerant

I've resigned myself to living by the code that works for me and letting the negative responses roll off me. (with an internal 'must suck to be you', more often than I like to admit) I've given up trying to predict whether a helpful gesture will be well received.

I don't know the person's experience, so really can't be offended.

In my neighborhood, if I see someone looking lost I'll ask, "Can I help you find something?" More often than not, they really ARE lost (crazy grid city) but sometimes I get the frosty. I'd rather weather that (no pun intended) than walk past and feel like I could have helped.

I've been accused of being too helpful...to which I like to ask, 'As opposed to what?' because I never assume I know the answer (like wheelchair guy) but I AM compelled to offer assistance if it seems needed. Or, like P-C, it's just the nice thing to do.


sj - Jun 23, 2009 7:42:18 am PDT #13610 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Yeah, I don't mind if people ask me if I need help as long as they understand "no". But people that ask other people who are with me instead or don't acknowledge that I can think for myself really piss me off. It's the legs, not the brain, assholes.


beekaytee - Jun 23, 2009 7:47:20 am PDT #13611 of 30000
Compassionately intolerant

Yeah, I don't mind if people ask me if I need help as long as they understand "no". But people that ask other people who are with me instead or don't acknowledge that I can think for myself really piss me off. It's the legs, not the brain, assholes.

Totally.

It's not the same, but when I consulted to the gov't and went to meetings with either peers or subordinates, it ground on me when the ol' boys spoke as if I wasn't in the room. One would literally ask someone ELSE what I thought of something!


Ginger - Jun 23, 2009 7:53:53 am PDT #13612 of 30000
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I'm in a class right now where our project is to come up with a person who revolutionized something, and then write an article on him/her

Willis Carrier (air conditioning)

Clarence Birdseye (frozen food)

The guys who started Google

Bill Wilson (AA)

Arthur Fry (Post-It Notes)


Vortex - Jun 23, 2009 7:55:09 am PDT #13613 of 30000
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Or the guys who started YouTube.


lisah - Jun 23, 2009 7:57:15 am PDT #13614 of 30000
Punishingly Intricate

I open/hold the door for everyone, regardless of gender or abledness, so I hope it's okay!

I think that's just polite.


billytea - Jun 23, 2009 7:58:03 am PDT #13615 of 30000
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

My suggestion would be Charles Darwin.


juliana - Jun 23, 2009 8:02:19 am PDT #13616 of 30000
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

Thespis.