I'm with Laga on the sibling marriage thing. Not my bag, but if a pair of consenting adult siblings makes that decision and is willing to fight the social stigmas, who am I (or the government) to stop them?

I'm not even certain how I feel about prohibiting siblings from having children. Strongly discouraging, sure, and encouraging termination in the case of detectable problems, okay. But legally forbidding it or forcing termination? Sounds dangerous to me.

Laura, get-better-quick~ma for Bobby.

I'm sad too, to see that Prop 8 got upheld. It is crappy and half-assed to uphold it, yet let the marriages stand that took place before it passed. It's not fair to the couples who are ready NOW to be married, who were not there yet for that brief window of opportunity.

Decision~ma for Matt.

And I hope I don't come across as not being supportive of you and your DW, GC, when I said the California Supreme Court decision about Prop 8 is crappy and half-assed. Because I'm glad that your marriage is still legally valid, but the rest of the decision is most uncool.

Not at all, WindSparrow. I'm completely furious about it.

CA Supreme Court was smoking something bizarre.

I'm so sorry for everyone adversely affected by the CA Supreme Courts decision today. My heart goes out to you.

I'm with Laga on the sibling marriage thing. Not my bag, but if a pair of consenting adult siblings makes that decision and is willing to fight the social stigmas, who am I (or the government) to stop them?

Yeah, I agree. Ditto for mutually consensual everyone-of-age polygamy. (Though in that case, I can see that it would be something of a legal nightmare to enact. Same-sex marriage is just a matter of taking an existing two-person legal contract and blotting out the gender references. Expanding that contract to include multiple parties would be waaaaaaaaay more work.)

I'm completely furious about it.

It's infuriating. You deserve to have the happiness that marriage brings. And you deserve to have the contentment of knowing that any other couple around you can have the same happiness.

I believe Prop 8 passed because the people who were mildly against it didn't bother to go to the polls once it was pretty well decided that Obama was going to win. The issue wasn't a big initiator for them, so they shrugged and stayed home. The zealots, though, were going to vote regardless of the presidential race.

Having existing gay marriages in place but not having mass marital chaos break out will be a benefit for the next fight. I can think of half a dozen ads based on "There are 18,000 gay married couples in California. When did you start seeing your marriage falling apart because of that? It hasn't?"

The wheels of politics are jagged and slow. But they do turn.

It's gonna happen, people. And, know you've got allies fighting with and for you until it does.