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Natter 60: Gone In 60 Seconds  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


SailAweigh - Aug 18, 2008 11:31:32 am PDT #4052 of 10003
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I found that want was more fun than get.

Hmmm, must be why I'm still single.


lisah - Aug 18, 2008 11:33:05 am PDT #4053 of 10003
Punishingly Intricate

For our anniversary this year, E and I are having the apartment professionally cleaned. Seriously.

My friends gave me a gift card for Merry Maids last year for my birthday which I LOVED! But I still haven't gotten around to using it. I'm really irritated at myself for that.


DavidS - Aug 18, 2008 11:35:40 am PDT #4054 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I tend to think of giving gifts as being about what the recipient wants, rather than what I find entertaining as a shopper. Gifts? Really are about the other person, not about me.

Sheesh, that doesn't characterize my attitude at all. It's not about entertaining myself. The point of gift-giving (to me, and not a comment or judgment on anybody else's gift-giving) is to think about the other person. To have them in mind. So that when you're browsing through a used bookstore and find an out-of-print copy of Northwest Smith, you think "I know somebody who'd like that." It's a kind of specific mindfulness.

To me, it's not that different from going ice skating yesterday with Emmett and thinking about Lizard and Susan and JZ. People that I have specific memories or associations with ice skating. When I see the roller derby sign outside Kezar stadium I think about Scrappy and lisah. I miss Rio when I see a particularly egregious muffin.

For me, it's not so much about gratifying somebody. (Not that there's anything remotely wrong about that.) It's about giving them something that connotes, "You were in my thoughts. You were present to me even though you were far away."


beth b - Aug 18, 2008 11:38:40 am PDT #4055 of 10003
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I think there was a point when I had some magical thinking about gift giving -- as in if you knew me, you'd know what I like. I had to grow up a little to realizes that the other person's taste is going to influence them. For example-- DH prefers more conservative clothing -- all the time. As in sandals with jeans is too radical. So I buy his Oxford cloth shirts , but in a brighter shade of blue then he might buy. I buy his fun clothes. and I think I 'd fall over backward if he bought something for me in the red, pinks ans melons I prefer. But he does get that I like clothes that flow,more than tailored.


Nora Deirdre - Aug 18, 2008 11:38:48 am PDT #4056 of 10003
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

Then, once we did them (like go to a certain restaurant I had mentioned) she'd have a terrible time and say things like "I don't like Chinese food." No matter what I did, I failed.

My MIL is very much like this. (well, was, back when she was more cognicent of stuff and could talk and whatever.)


megan walker - Aug 18, 2008 11:40:35 am PDT #4057 of 10003
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

David's posts have basically summed up what I feel about getting and giving gifts.
That, and surprise.


And, ruthless efficiency...


And, of course, a fanatical devotion to the Pope.
t /Monty Python


Glamcookie - Aug 18, 2008 11:41:46 am PDT #4058 of 10003
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

Hec, that was a lovely way to state it. GF is a most excellent gift giver in that same way. She really pays attention to what friends/family say and always gets something that is totally attuned to them. I aspire to that.


sarameg - Aug 18, 2008 11:46:03 am PDT #4059 of 10003

Somthing that's become a tradition between my parents is for my mother to give my father the most impractical, preferably large, strangely wrapped, useless thing she can find. One year it was a giant stuffed elephant that barely fit in the trunk of the car. Another was the backpack so large you could probably fit 3 corpses in it. (I'm not exaggerating. It was some promotional thing.)

If it a "what the hell?" it is perfect. I can't remember last years'.

The elephant still lives in the front room.


Glamcookie - Aug 18, 2008 11:46:44 am PDT #4060 of 10003
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

Speaking of gifts, a pal of mine from our Japanese office (Hideyuki) brought me THE most adorable Hello Kitty watch you've ever seen! It's delicate and pink and has the teeniest Hello Kitty head on the hour hand. LOVES IT!! He is always trying to help me get a work trip to Japan. He's the nicest.


beth b - Aug 18, 2008 11:49:58 am PDT #4061 of 10003
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

You were in my thoughts. You were present to me even though you were far away."

I think of gift giving as a form of communication. Although I don't play them very often now -some of my favorite CDs were given to me by DH. Music is part of Matt's life blood. He pick out music for me -- and I really liked what he picked.

found that want was more fun than get.

Hmmm, must be why I'm still single

ha - DH would say his life would be easier if I used the word want more.