Yes, it's terribly simple. The good guys are always stalwart and true, the bad guys are easily distinguished by their pointy horns or black hats, and, uh, we always defeat them and save the day. No one ever dies, and everybody lives happily ever after.

Giles ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 60: Gone In 60 Seconds  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sophia Brooks - Aug 18, 2008 8:38:27 am PDT #3975 of 10003
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I need stuff! Like black tights, but I never get them!!!


Steph L. - Aug 18, 2008 8:39:20 am PDT #3976 of 10003
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I get really stressed out about gift-giving.

I do, too. (Uh, if my extreme defensiveness didn't already make that clear.)


Jesse - Aug 18, 2008 8:40:02 am PDT #3977 of 10003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Heh -- black tights aren't a present! (This is the other reason I get stressed out. So many things "aren't a present.")


Tom Scola - Aug 18, 2008 8:42:24 am PDT #3978 of 10003
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

I *like* giving presents. I'm awful about getting them, though.


sarameg - Aug 18, 2008 8:42:26 am PDT #3979 of 10003

I still haven't gotten a goat or a share of a waterbuffalo.


Sophia Brooks - Aug 18, 2008 8:43:34 am PDT #3980 of 10003
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I don't like people to watch me open a present, because it makes me feel all self-conscious. Also, I completely freexe in those gift-giving games you play at work (like Yankee Swap or whatever).

ETA-WRT black tights-- my favorite presents, were I to choose are small practical things that I hate spending money on, but need-- this is really mostly from family. From friends I tend to appreciate almost anything, because it is nice to know they thought of me. Although I do have one friend who makes gift baskets filled with homemade soap, candy, and a bottle of wine for everyone on her list. I am allergic to the soap and my friend M.'s husband is an alcoholic, so she gives me the wine and I give her the soap. But you would think other friend would learn after awhile, especially about the alcohol!


lisah - Aug 18, 2008 8:45:57 am PDT #3981 of 10003
Punishingly Intricate

eh I'm probably not being very articulate.

Really I know that some people prefer to be asked and some don't. I was just curious about it!

If person A asks you what you want and then gives it to you, and person B did NOT ask you what you wanted and gives you a gift they thought you would like, do you feel differently about the 2 people and/or their gifts? Like person A was just fulfilling an obligation but person B can see into the depths of your soul?

Oh my thing isn't feeling like the person asking is just fulfilling an obligation. I understand why people ask! It just makes me self conscious and mildly annoyed because there are resources (like I said, asking my close friends).

But really has no bearing on the amount of gratitude I have for any gift given. And absolutely has no bearing on the love I have for the person asking or how much I think they love me!

I'm not judging anyone on their style of gifting! At all. I was just curious!

We exchange lists in my extended family for xmas gift exchange. I have no problem with that. We're pretty close but I wouldn't expect, say, my cousin's wife (if she's my designated gift-er) to know me as well as my aunt who I see and talk to all the time.

Heh -- black tights aren't a present!

ooh I wonder if Sock Dreams does gift cards? See, I'd LOVE that as a gift!


Frankenbuddha - Aug 18, 2008 8:46:33 am PDT #3982 of 10003
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Wow, it feels like Vampire People has been out longer than a year (probably because I followed the story of its creation) and out nowhere near that long (despite getting it a day ahead of the release date thanks to Amazon). Odd, that.


DavidS - Aug 18, 2008 8:46:38 am PDT #3983 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Oh, and to actually answer Tep's question. I dislike the lists because it makes me feel like a personal shopper.

I don't know if it's true that it's the thought that counts, but with list giving it feels like it's the thing that counts.


sarameg - Aug 18, 2008 8:50:43 am PDT #3984 of 10003

With my brother, the things he's likely to get the most pleasure from are car parts. Which I know jack about. So I paypal him some money and tell him to go buy a new wazzlethrottletorque with it. He usually takes a picture, so I can say "look at the lovely wazzlethrottletorque I got you! It's even got a quizky!"

When he asks me what I'd like (he always does, he says he's a terrible gift-giver, and well...) I tell him (after I say "goat!" They don't seem to take me seriously) to send me a link for something automotive I need but know not which are legit sources and prices.