You'll fight, and you'll shag, and you'll hate each other till it makes you quiver, but you'll never be friends.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


Natter 56: ...we need the writers.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


sarameg - Jan 24, 2008 3:14:04 pm PST #5246 of 10001

He's 5.


Aims - Jan 24, 2008 3:15:02 pm PST #5247 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I thought he was a little older than Em. Does it work for your brother? I wonder when that switch from taking away _____ to earning _______ works best?


Cashmere - Jan 24, 2008 3:19:18 pm PST #5248 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

I've somehow managed to teach Liv to say, "Peeeeew!" when she has a dirty diaper. She came lumbering towards me with outstreached hands saying, "PEEEEWWWWW!" Um, hand, covered in shit from a diaper blow out.

I tossed her immediately into the tub. Man, I need a shot of tequila.


Aims - Jan 24, 2008 3:20:47 pm PST #5249 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Em's in the tub. She just announced she was done.


Cashmere - Jan 24, 2008 3:22:58 pm PST #5250 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

ION, we bought this today to play with. I think it's as close to sushi as I'm likely to get in a while. *sob*


Aims - Jan 24, 2008 3:28:16 pm PST #5251 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Fun!

Why no sushi? No access or are you preggers?


Cashmere - Jan 24, 2008 3:29:29 pm PST #5252 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

Bite your tongue, Missy!

Up here they call it, "bait."


msbelle - Jan 24, 2008 3:31:11 pm PST #5253 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

no idea why it is common for them.

he stopped, he apologized. we have bathed and read a story and he is now hopefully quickly falling asleep.


Sue - Jan 24, 2008 3:36:04 pm PST #5254 of 10001
hip deep in pie

(OK, so she's not my agent, but she gets to be our communal agent, right?) She was telling me over the summer she wanted them to do a book!

It's been on gawker for the last couple of days.


sarameg - Jan 24, 2008 3:36:38 pm PST #5255 of 10001

It seems to work pretty well. He's a pretty high energy kid but isn't so much a troublemaker. Well, except when in cahoots with his parents...

They use a stoplight model borrowed from the preschool. Basically, if he has a "green" day, he gets a star or whatever that counts towards some highly desired/obsessed over goal. He doesn't have to be an angel all day or anything. He can go from a red in the morning (he starts each day with a blank slate) back to green by the end. He just gets warned "you are turning yellow, D. " So it is sort of negative consequence, but over a longer term.

He does still get an immediate consequence. But this can shut down a ramp up where the threat of an immediate negative consequence really doesn't so well. I guess the long term consequences matter more to him than the prospect of getting sent to his room or losing an activity right then.

I see how it could go wrong (associating good behavior with a treat all the time, rather than that old "good behaviour is its own reward" thing) but it seems to work for this kid's personality. I think it really depends on the kid.

I think my parents used something similar with me, but I'm not sure. I remember putting gold stars on a calendar. Wouldn't surprise me. I don't ever recall being terribly impressed with the threat of being sent to my room, grounded or whatever.