But I understand. You gave up everything you had to find me. And you found me broken. It's hard for you.

River ,'Safe'


Buffista Movies 6: lies and videotape  

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Steph L. - Apr 24, 2008 7:28:03 am PDT #5178 of 10000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Ha! Beatcha, P-C!

Batman and Iron Man and Hulk and Hellboy and Speed Racer and Wall-E and Indiana Jones and X-Files.

I don't know how I feel about Hulk, and I can take or leave Speed Racer, and I'm kind of MEH on Wall-E, and X-Files is sorta....over, for me.

But Iron Man! And Hellboy! And Dark Knight! And INDY!!!!


Miracleman - Apr 24, 2008 7:28:49 am PDT #5179 of 10000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Dark Knight isn't until December, I think.

I wanna see Iron Man right now!

I'm not sure I've ever had cause to say this, but: MM, get outta my brain!

Heh. Maybe not. But I think you and I are one with the "WTF?! He's a skeevy disco guy? THIS is 'evil Pete'? THIS?!"

Also: "PICK A FUCKING VILLAIN! Has the first Batman movie franchise taught you NOTHING?! One villain: Awesome. Two villains: Can still be awesome. THREE VILLAINS: Constructed Entirely of SUCK!"

They WASTED all three villains! Sandman...well, that wasn't so great a story-line, so I don't mind that they wasted it. I DO mind that they wasted my time by including it at all.

New Goblin: Could have been awesome. Not enough time. Wasted.

Venom: WAY TO BRING HIM IN TOO LATE TO DO ANYTHING, RAIMI! Jesus! If Venom had been the only villain, maybe you'd have had enough time to do some decent "power corrupts", "Parker goes back to his roots, triumphs over evil in self" "Fights Venom as Embodiment of Corruption, triumphs over evil in general." But NOOOOOOOO!!

Hmph. Still mad about that.


Tom Scola - Apr 24, 2008 7:29:01 am PDT #5180 of 10000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Tony Stark makes you feel,
He's a cool exec with a heart of steel.

And IRON MAN all jets ablaze,
He fights and smites with repulsor rays!

Amazing armor, it's IRON MAN!
A blazing bomber, it's IRON MAN!!


Aims - Apr 24, 2008 7:29:56 am PDT #5181 of 10000
Shit's all sorts of different now.

t loves on Scola


Glamcookie - Apr 24, 2008 7:31:34 am PDT #5182 of 10000
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

My fave comic book movies:

  • Ghost World
  • American Splendor
  • V for Vendetta
  • X-Men 1
  • X-Men 2
  • Sin City

Didn't like Spiderman 1, Batman Begins, or Superman.


Aims - Apr 24, 2008 7:33:28 am PDT #5183 of 10000
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I adore "V for Vendetta" Unholy love for that movie have I. It's probably #1 for me.


Polter-Cow - Apr 24, 2008 7:34:52 am PDT #5184 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Dark Knight isn't until December, I think.

No, it's summer. July 18.


Miracleman - Apr 24, 2008 7:35:32 am PDT #5185 of 10000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

No, it's summer. July 18.

Huh. Why did I think it was winter?

I'm going senile or something.


Steph L. - Apr 24, 2008 7:37:21 am PDT #5186 of 10000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Dark Knight isn't until December, I think.

July, I thought. (Pleasepleaseplease.) t edit Thanks to the x-post, I can say: yay!!!!

But I think you and I are one with the "WTF?! He's a skeevy disco guy? THIS is 'evil Pete'? THIS?!"

Freaking Little Nicky, is what he was.

Also: "PICK A FUCKING VILLAIN! Has the first Batman movie franchise taught you NOTHING?! One villain: Awesome. Two villains: Can still be awesome. THREE VILLAINS: Constructed Entirely of SUCK!"

Well, I do get WHY they needed all 3 -- Goblin!Harry had to be evil so that he could have his Big Redemptive Death. If (in addition to Goblin!Harry) the movie had only Sandman or only Venom, Pete could have dispatched the Big Bad pretty plausibly. But having BOTH made it necessary for newly-good!asspull!Harry to team up with Pete.

But I agree -- I'm not sure that any director could have made it work, which means they should have changed the plot.

Sandman...well, that wasn't so great a story-line, so I don't mind that they wasted it. I DO mind that they wasted my time by including it at all.

The CGI was nifty, and I liked that Sandman wasn't just a one-dimensional baddie. And that's about all I can say about him.

Venom: WAY TO BRING HIM IN TOO LATE TO DO ANYTHING, RAIMI!

Not to mention that the symbiote was never named in the movie. Plus -- IT DOESN'T TURN PETE INTO TWO WILD AND CRAZY GUYS!!!! Okay? It's EVIL, not douchey!

Hmph. Still mad about that.

Right there with you.

And the dance scene? And deus ex butler? No no no no no, a thousand times no.


Jessica - Apr 24, 2008 7:40:42 am PDT #5187 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Wasn't the backstory there that Raimi hated Venom and didn't want him in the movie AT ALL, so he made sure that he (a) was in the movie as little as possible and (b) couldn't come back for Spidey 4?

Not that it matters - whatever the meta reasoning, it was still a pretty sucktastic storyline.