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Miracleman - Apr 24, 2008 7:35:32 am PDT #5185 of 10000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

No, it's summer. July 18.

Huh. Why did I think it was winter?

I'm going senile or something.


Steph L. - Apr 24, 2008 7:37:21 am PDT #5186 of 10000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Dark Knight isn't until December, I think.

July, I thought. (Pleasepleaseplease.) t edit Thanks to the x-post, I can say: yay!!!!

But I think you and I are one with the "WTF?! He's a skeevy disco guy? THIS is 'evil Pete'? THIS?!"

Freaking Little Nicky, is what he was.

Also: "PICK A FUCKING VILLAIN! Has the first Batman movie franchise taught you NOTHING?! One villain: Awesome. Two villains: Can still be awesome. THREE VILLAINS: Constructed Entirely of SUCK!"

Well, I do get WHY they needed all 3 -- Goblin!Harry had to be evil so that he could have his Big Redemptive Death. If (in addition to Goblin!Harry) the movie had only Sandman or only Venom, Pete could have dispatched the Big Bad pretty plausibly. But having BOTH made it necessary for newly-good!asspull!Harry to team up with Pete.

But I agree -- I'm not sure that any director could have made it work, which means they should have changed the plot.

Sandman...well, that wasn't so great a story-line, so I don't mind that they wasted it. I DO mind that they wasted my time by including it at all.

The CGI was nifty, and I liked that Sandman wasn't just a one-dimensional baddie. And that's about all I can say about him.

Venom: WAY TO BRING HIM IN TOO LATE TO DO ANYTHING, RAIMI!

Not to mention that the symbiote was never named in the movie. Plus -- IT DOESN'T TURN PETE INTO TWO WILD AND CRAZY GUYS!!!! Okay? It's EVIL, not douchey!

Hmph. Still mad about that.

Right there with you.

And the dance scene? And deus ex butler? No no no no no, a thousand times no.


Jessica - Apr 24, 2008 7:40:42 am PDT #5187 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Wasn't the backstory there that Raimi hated Venom and didn't want him in the movie AT ALL, so he made sure that he (a) was in the movie as little as possible and (b) couldn't come back for Spidey 4?

Not that it matters - whatever the meta reasoning, it was still a pretty sucktastic storyline.


juliana - Apr 24, 2008 7:41:36 am PDT #5188 of 10000
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

"NO NO NO!! That's Ozzy Osbourne! Not [insert name of Iron Man]"

HAH!!!

I'm not incredibly familiar with the source text, but I'm still psyched to see the movie (Iron Man, I mean).


Steph L. - Apr 24, 2008 7:42:44 am PDT #5189 of 10000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

couldn't come back for Spidey 4?

Actually, given the way the comic has dealt with bringing Venom back, it could be done.

Though not by Sam Raimi.

Raimi hated Venom and didn't want him in the movie AT ALL

That's insane troll logic, because Venom is TEH AWESOME.


Miracleman - Apr 24, 2008 7:45:37 am PDT #5190 of 10000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Is there going to be a Spidey 4? Anyone heard anything?


Jessica - Apr 24, 2008 7:47:52 am PDT #5191 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Actually, given the way the comic has dealt with bringing Venom back, it could be done.

Yeah, but that's true for just about any comic book character who's ever died in any way, isn't it?


Amy - Apr 24, 2008 7:49:09 am PDT #5192 of 10000
Because books.

Jess, Tilda Swinton made me swoooon in Constantine. Like, dizzy and a little breathless.

And Keanu ... I don't know what it is, but I can watch him in just about anything. And tortured and smoking in a white shirt and tie? Kinks. Bulletproof.


Frankenbuddha - Apr 24, 2008 7:50:27 am PDT #5193 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Yeah, but that's true for just about any comic book character who's ever died in any way, isn't it?

Hell, I'm still expecting them to somehow bring back Barry Allen (if they haven't already).


Miracleman - Apr 24, 2008 7:51:40 am PDT #5194 of 10000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Hell, I'm still expecting them to somehow bring back Barry Allen (if they haven't already).

I believe there is an edict at DC Comics against bringing back Barry Allen except in Elseworlds-type stories.