We have to see the chimp playing hockey! That's hilarious! The ice is so slippery, and, and monkeys are all irrational. We have to see this!

Anya ,'Bring On The Night'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


Polter-Cow - May 11, 2009 11:31:07 am PDT #2264 of 12003
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Meh. I am not a fan of the Nate-is-an-alcoholic storyline. That is less fun, and it sort of appeared out of nowhere. (I mean, not NOWHERE, I know the guy is grieving over his son, but there wasn't so much a slow decline as "Suddenly this week, Nate's drinking all the time and everyone's worried about him!")

Three more episodes! And then I have to wait for more like the rest of you.


Lee - May 11, 2009 12:13:40 pm PDT #2265 of 12003
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I thought that at first too, P-C, but going back and rewatching, there are signs of it in the pilot and first couple of eps as well.


Vortex - May 11, 2009 12:19:05 pm PDT #2266 of 12003
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Frankly, that's often the way that you see alcoholism. You don't really notice how much someone is drinking for a while, and then you suddenly think. Wow, Nate's drinking a lot.


megan walker - May 11, 2009 12:21:51 pm PDT #2267 of 12003
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Yeah, but given the whole vibe of the show, I wish it had been more "Nick & Nora" and less of a "thing".


Polter-Cow - May 11, 2009 12:25:59 pm PDT #2268 of 12003
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I agree, megan. They played it a little for laughs (loved Parker's assertion that he was getting creepier), but when it got Very Serious, it didn't feel right.


Vortex - May 11, 2009 12:41:40 pm PDT #2269 of 12003
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Yeah, but given the whole vibe of the show, I wish it had been more "Nick & Nora" and less of a "thing".

yeah, that would have been nice, but we don't allow that anymore.


§ ita § - May 11, 2009 1:29:14 pm PDT #2270 of 12003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Nate drinks not just in a few episodes, but in every single one.


sj - May 11, 2009 1:32:13 pm PDT #2271 of 12003
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I liked the way the alcoholism was done, and it made sense to me that every victory for the team might make his drinking just a little bit work. Nate can fix everyone else's life, but his son is still gone.


-t - May 11, 2009 1:53:46 pm PDT #2272 of 12003
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

It's a nice note for his character. If he can have a drink in his hand, he does. And even when it's demonstrated that it's a problem, physically, at least, he goes right on like he has been, same functional brokenness, not ready to fix. I like it.


§ ita § - May 11, 2009 2:09:51 pm PDT #2273 of 12003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

John Rogers said that as a TV writer he was very qualified to write a functional drinker. I was surprised to realise he'd been drinking every episode--just another way rewatching the entire season paid off. I can't say it's the show's fault I didn't notice the first time round.