Lindsey: Why--why did you... Lorne: One last job. You're not part of the solution, Lindsey. You never will be. Lindsey: You kill me? A flunky?! I'm not just...Angel...kills me. You...Angel... Lorne: Good night, folks.

'Not Fade Away'


Non-Fiction TV: I Reject Your Reality and Substitute My Own

This thread is for non-fiction TV, including but not limited to reality television (So You Think You Can Dance, Top Chef: Masters, Project Runway), documentaries (The History Channel, The Discovery Channel), and sundry (Expedition Africa, Mythbusters), et al. [NAFDA]


flea - May 22, 2009 2:16:34 am PDT #9107 of 23273
information libertarian

I watched the SYTYCD auditions intermittently, and maybe the gender issues raised my the same-sex ballroom guys were pinging me, but I was depressed by how all the good female dancers we saw highlighted were fairly similar contemporary dancers (I get so tired of those little black shorts and flingy hair) and all the male dancers were *individuals* where character was as important as technique (many of them being street dancers). Women can be quirky and express something other than Sara McLachlan, too, you know!


le nubian - May 22, 2009 3:22:17 am PDT #9108 of 23273
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

They will accept a new genre, just not changes to old ones.

I have to say that I find Nigel to be very conservative overall in his approach to dance: whether it be gender issues and diversity of dance. I have a serious beef with Nigel discussing the kind of hip hop he likes. He likes NappyTabs hip hop (which at times is not hip hop at all - but that's another rant on another day), but he complains when hip hop is "hard."

Nigel also complains when male dancers are "masculine" enough - and gives this constant criticism. He on the flip side does not like it when female dancers aren't "feminine" enough, but he uses more coded words for that critique and while sometimes directly says it, he more often indirectly says it.

Nigel isn't a strict traditionalist or anything, but he also doesn't truly "get" and cannot adequately critique other forms of dance that do not have ballroom as their base training.

Finally, I very much wish that Nigel would be a judge OR an executive producer and not both things. I love SYTYCD for the dancing and the awesome young adults, but I hate the manipulation and Nigel brings it in full force.


Frankenbuddha - May 22, 2009 3:32:44 am PDT #9109 of 23273
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Top Chef: Masters starts in two weeks on June 10!

Woot!

Sadly, no.

Boo!


sumi - May 22, 2009 4:03:47 am PDT #9110 of 23273
Art Crawl!!!

Hey, BBCA is going to run a David Attenborough series on Darwin - that should be good.

I'm looking forward to TC:Masters. I think I will catch up on Fashion Show this weekend.


sumi - May 22, 2009 4:07:22 am PDT #9111 of 23273
Art Crawl!!!

And they're finally going to run the most recent season of F Word this summer.


Amy - May 22, 2009 4:16:54 am PDT #9112 of 23273
Because books.

What is Nigel's dance background? I looked at his bio on the show site, and it seems like all TV and producer credits.


Jessica - May 22, 2009 4:38:48 am PDT #9113 of 23273
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

That's what missing for me on Fashion Show. The lack of Tim Gunn is just ... a big hole.

There's also the almost complete lack of talent among all the contestants. The constant whining about sewing makes me want to bitch-slap every last one of them.

Can we just skip to the end and give the prize to the tiny pretentious Asian guy whose name I can't remember? The one with a philosophy of lines and stealth fighters and shit? I like his clothes. Everyone else can please go home now.


tiggy - May 22, 2009 4:44:30 am PDT #9114 of 23273
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

he was a dancer/choreographer back in the day. somebody found a hilarious video of him doing some kind of show back in the 70s last year. i'll have to see if i can find it.


Amy - May 22, 2009 4:47:06 am PDT #9115 of 23273
Because books.

The constant whining about sewing makes me want to bitch-slap every last one of them.

That, too. I just haven't warmed to any of them.

he was a dancer/choreographer back in the day.

Snerk. I'd *love* to see that.


Vortex - May 22, 2009 6:07:59 am PDT #9116 of 23273
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

The constant whining about sewing makes me want to bitch-slap every last one of them.

"I'm a designer, not a sewer!" It's like saying that I'm an artist, but I can't draw.