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Non-Fiction TV: I Reject Your Reality and Substitute My Own

This thread is for non-fiction TV, including but not limited to reality television (So You Think You Can Dance, Top Chef: Masters, Project Runway), documentaries (The History Channel, The Discovery Channel), and sundry (Expedition Africa, Mythbusters), et al. [NAFDA]


Nora Deirdre - Dec 14, 2008 11:50:52 am PST #7522 of 23273
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

god, MIKEY. I really hated Season 2. Although Mikey kinda cracked me up. But, bah, Ilan.


sumi - Dec 14, 2008 1:44:41 pm PST #7523 of 23273
Art Crawl!!!

Season 2 was a lesson in how not to do the show. Terrible.


Liese S. - Dec 14, 2008 2:23:09 pm PST #7524 of 23273
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Season two was awful. And I was all amped up for it.

Anyway, yeah, agree with the assessment. I love the palate test because it's right about the time you start to see the real competitors shine through.

Stephan, Fabio, yeah, Jamie if she doesn't implode. I'd say Jeff (hate!) and Eugene (love!) are wild cards. Ariane I'm rooting for, but don't think she'll make it to the end. And Leah. Leah has been winning but I still don't remember her. So she may hang in, too, since it's clear she has some skill.

What do you guys think about Hosea? I think he may be in the mix, too.


Amy - Dec 14, 2008 2:28:53 pm PST #7525 of 23273
Because books.

I like Hosea! Although I'm not sure he has the chops.

Why do you hate Jeff, Liese? I'm not sure he's a huge talent, but I do like the way he's been a team player so far.

I was disappointed that Sam screwed up in S2. I think he's far more talented than Ilan. And I did hate the immaturity and the drama that season. Cliff was talented, too, and absolutely shot himself in the foot with that ridiculous shaving stunt.


Jesse - Dec 14, 2008 2:47:37 pm PST #7526 of 23273
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Hosea has cute dimples. That's all I know about his cooking.


Jesse - Dec 14, 2008 2:49:53 pm PST #7527 of 23273
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Also, Sam has a restaurant in Montauk, and is opening one in Manhattan. What's Ilan up to?


Jessica - Dec 14, 2008 2:54:48 pm PST #7528 of 23273
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Jeff looks so much like the guy who plays Chase on House that I'm having a really hard time taking him seriously. Nothing at all to do with his performance as a chef, ALL about the hair.


Liese S. - Dec 14, 2008 3:03:53 pm PST #7529 of 23273
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Oh, Sam.

The SO says Jeff is an (and I quote), "arrogant talking donkey." The way we were introduced to him with the whole bit about how he checks with his sous chef to see how he looks rubbed us the wrong way. And he's just seemed full of himself to the detriment of everything else kinda throughout, although D. points out that he did, in fact, have the stuff this last challenge, so it may be a case of pride instead of arrogance.

There was something else more woeful, but I misremember at the moment.

From the preview, did it look like Tom was hanging out in the stew room with the contestants while he was reaming them a new one? That's not common, is it? I don't remember that ever happening before.


sumi - Dec 14, 2008 3:50:22 pm PST #7530 of 23273
Art Crawl!!!

Apparently Ilan is opening something out west. I think.

I gather that the producers were hoping that keeping the contestants in kind of a lousy apartment during the competition would amp up the pressure. I don't think that they expected what they got. (Also, wasn't there some sort of unprecedented heat wave that year?)

Over at TWOP many posters in the Jeff thread have mentioned that they keep expecting him to speak in an Australian accent.


Amy - Dec 14, 2008 3:55:23 pm PST #7531 of 23273
Because books.

Jeff does look like Chase! I'm surprised that didn't occur to me.

The way we were introduced to him with the whole bit about how he checks with his sous chef to see how he looks rubbed us the wrong way.

That bothered me, too. But I liked the way he stood up for his team during the Foos/Thanksgiving Challenge, and the way he helped the others during Gayle's shower. I think he has a lot of pride in the food, whether he's winning or losing, and that strikes me as very professional. Also, he didn't gloat when his sorbet turned out to be a favorite and essentially made Stefan very wrong. He sort of grew on me.