Oh my god. What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing!? Oh right, that would be me. Back to work.

Wash ,'Bushwhacked'


Non-Fiction TV: I Reject Your Reality and Substitute My Own

This thread is for non-fiction TV, including but not limited to reality television (So You Think You Can Dance, Top Chef: Masters, Project Runway), documentaries (The History Channel, The Discovery Channel), and sundry (Expedition Africa, Mythbusters), et al. [NAFDA]


Scrappy - May 17, 2010 7:32:13 am PDT #13808 of 23273
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Hell, I could have won against Randy, and I wasn't even there. Useless and sour is a very bad combo.


Jessica - May 17, 2010 7:34:49 am PDT #13809 of 23273
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

My hunch is that Parvati would have won against Jerri.

I think so too, unless Jerri was doing more strategizing offscreen than we ever saw.


Scrappy - May 17, 2010 7:45:29 am PDT #13810 of 23273
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Also, I don't think that Russell even now understands what he did wrong. As Jeff (who was looking very fetching in his black sweater last night) said, Russell may have won a different game, but Survivor is about the same people you play against judging you at the end.


Jessica - May 17, 2010 7:52:04 am PDT #13811 of 23273
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Has anyone won with the "I hate you but respect your gameplay" strategy since Richard Hatch? It seems to me there's always someone in every season who thinks that's the way to go, but it never works out because the social game is what's important.


Stephanie - May 17, 2010 8:09:42 am PDT #13812 of 23273
Trust my rage

I only got to see up until the reading of the final votes and then I had to go to bed. Russell looked so angry, which was so different from how confident he had looked the first time around and at the last tribal council. I'm so eager to see the reunion and see how it went.


le nubian - May 17, 2010 8:46:04 am PDT #13813 of 23273
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Prepare yourself. That reunion was a trip. It really is the Russell show for the first half.


Stephanie - May 17, 2010 9:17:14 am PDT #13814 of 23273
Trust my rage

I suppose this is not really news to anyone who has thought about it but one thing I did learn from Russell is that most people (but not him) are still constrained by rules of common decency and honesty, even when they are "playing a game". When they lie to people, they feel bad about it and they have tells of one sort or another. But not Russell. Parvati is the perfect example. I think she was as devious as Russell but she didn't do it in a way that made everyone hate her.


Jessica - May 17, 2010 9:31:20 am PDT #13815 of 23273
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Russell's version of "playing the game as hard as I can" involved bullying and threats - good for keeping people scared to vote you off, but *terrible* for jury votes.

I thought Boston Rob's comment about Russell playing to get to the end but not to win was dead on. (Which isn't surprising given that the same thing happened to him on All-Stars. Of course, losing to your fiance probably stings less than losing to a woman who refers to you as her "pet.")


Strega - May 17, 2010 12:45:25 pm PDT #13816 of 23273

Yeah, I think it's hard for Russell to make the case that he's just playing a tough game when he lost his temper over and over. And often he got mad about people doing the same things he'd done -- like when he berated Sandra for not telling him that she had an idol. You can't tell other people that they shouldn't take it personally, and then fly into a rage when things don't go your way.

Whereas Parvati & Sandra -- and even Rob -- mostly stayed cool even when they were outplayed.

I do kinda think Russell should be in another season, but not as a competitor -- as a challenge. Like "We're putting you all in a room with this guy. Whoever can stand it the longest gets immunity."


askye - May 17, 2010 12:52:12 pm PDT #13817 of 23273
Thrive to spite them

I think the EW recapper summed Russell's problem up the best "They could make the final three a final one and you still would get a single person to write your name down.''

And of course Russell doesn't get that.