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Non-Fiction TV: I Reject Your Reality and Substitute My Own

This thread is for non-fiction TV, including but not limited to reality television (So You Think You Can Dance, Top Chef: Masters, Project Runway), documentaries (The History Channel, The Discovery Channel), and sundry (Expedition Africa, Mythbusters), et al. [NAFDA]


Vortex - Aug 19, 2009 10:34:39 am PDT #10377 of 23273
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

It was kind of confusing this week. The judges picked the lowest crew last week during the show. Then the audience voted, and the bottom two danced and the judges selected a winner from the bottom two.

I'm sure that Vogue Evolution has a strong lobby calling in.


kat perez - Aug 19, 2009 11:26:36 am PDT #10378 of 23273
"We have trust issues." Mylar

It always works that way. The audience determines who is B2 and then both crews do a DoD and the judges decide "on the spot" who goes home that night. That happens up until the final two crews and that is all up to the audience. I actually prefer this format because it takes some of the Evan factor out of the results. This judge panel usually rewards excellence above popularity.

I guess I just don't expect a vogueing crew to give me clean, crisp choreography a la Southern Movement or Rhythm City. I expect over the top exuberance and an almost frenetic energy because they are coming out of the serious, straight up battle dance culture. And not even B-Boy style battles most of the time. These are normally individual, winner take all battles decided by a ballroom full of vicious queens not battles between the different houses. So I really appreciate VE because they are up there making a crew out of a style that is really not based around being a crew and still being true to the style of dance that they represent. I found their performance all over fierce. I think both VE and Afroborike might struggle with challenges as the show progresses.

And I would agree that VE probably has a ridiculously solid voting block. But I also hope that they are winning over some b-boys and hip hop heads through their appearance on this show, especially given the extreme homophobia on display in a lot of rap culture.

I didn't care for Rhythm City because I feel like they really cheated the challenge. That half a milisecond of foot shuffling that looked like half of them were doing the Mashed Potato in no way fulfilled the spirit of the task, IMHO. And I didn't care for the business of having the guy in the PJs dance on the bed for the entire routine. And they didn't hit their ending pose it didn't seem. The two guys were still scrambling to get back under the bed when the music ended. I was all over underwhelmed which is sad, because I had really enjoyed them week one.


Vortex - Aug 19, 2009 11:28:28 am PDT #10379 of 23273
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

PR fans, Tim Gunn is on The Daily Show tonight.


kat perez - Aug 19, 2009 12:02:28 pm PDT #10380 of 23273
"We have trust issues." Mylar

On PR, how do we all feel about a guest appearance by Nicole Kidman? I don't know if that's even a spoiler because it's been everywhere but I figured better safe than sorry. Anyway, I'm excited about it for the most part. Sure to be a better fit than Posh as an AI guest judge. I'm already weeping over that one.


megan walker - Aug 19, 2009 12:04:31 pm PDT #10381 of 23273
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

We hates it.

I would rather not have "star" guest judges. Heck, I don't even want stylists in that chair.


Amy - Aug 19, 2009 12:06:19 pm PDT #10382 of 23273
Because books.

Posh SPICE as an AI judge? For real?

I also heard they're having Joe Jonas during auditions. Um.


Vortex - Aug 19, 2009 12:07:13 pm PDT #10383 of 23273
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I don't know if that's even a spoiler because it's been everywhere but I figured better safe than sorry

A spoiler is anything that hasn't been broadcast (perhaps it's been discussed in commercials, but as I tend to FF through commercials, maybe I haven't seen it). If you're being safe, then white font, which perhaps you meant to do?

eta: ah, you fixed it, good. I know I'm a spoiler nazi, but our rules are our rules.


kat perez - Aug 19, 2009 12:24:18 pm PDT #10384 of 23273
"We have trust issues." Mylar

Yeah, sorry to anyone who inadvertently saw that. I was trying to white font it from the beginning because while I myself am a total spoiler ho, I know that others are not. Sadly, my HTML skills are nigh unto non-existent and every time I try to use the handy dandy quick edit function that I'm sure is super easy, I prove that I am crap at most things technological.

Yes, Posh will be guest judging on AI, at least during the early audition rounds (Boston maybe?). Although her "people" deny that there are any plans to add her as a permanent judge. And I hope that wasn't a spoiler, but in addition to reading about it in Entertainment Weekly, I saw it on Entertainment Tonight or Extra or some other widely broadcast show, so I apologize to anyone who didn't know or didn't want to know, but I honestly didn't think that was a spoiler.

ETA: As apparently are my spelling skills, so maybe I should just stop posting today.


Vortex - Aug 19, 2009 12:34:17 pm PDT #10385 of 23273
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

eh, I don't care about AI, so I'm good (selfish, I know), but I think that "broadcast" is meant in the context of the show, not anywhere on TV. From the FAQ:

Anything that hasn't been broadcast. So anything from the show and the preview trailers is okay, anything from TV Guide or anywhere else is a spoiler, including casting news, episode titles and plot twists.

I think that's why we did spoilers lite, so that "commonly known" stuff could be discussed, but not around people who remained unspoiled. It would drive me crazy when people would talk about "the spoiler that everyone knows" or whatever because I work hard to remain unspoiled.


Liese S. - Aug 19, 2009 12:40:15 pm PDT #10386 of 23273
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I think both VE and Afroborike might struggle with challenges as the show progresses.

Yeah, I think this will definitely be the case. Both the vogueing and the Latin partnering stuff is not typically in total sync. And I thought it would be with the hick-hop group too, but I might be wrong on that.

I have somehow not yet caught the love for We Are Heroes. You'd think I would because I usually am all about whatever Asian is representing, but in this competition race is so not an issue. Which I LOVE.

I agree with the assessment about Rhythm City, and I am also disappointed that it's the case. It was called out, so I'm hoping they address it going forward.