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All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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Frankenbuddha - Jun 16, 2003 6:49:37 am PDT #5108 of 9843
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

They're all rather passive; stuff keeps happening to the characters, rather than the characters causing stuff to happen.

This part, not so much.

Are you referring to Mutant Enemy, or SFU? I gave up on SFU pretty early on, it may have got better in this regard.

Sorry it wasn't clearer but I meant ME - their characters aren't passive.

And I can definitely see that take about most of the 6FU characters. I can't quite articulate why I do like 6FU, but Trudy's comment on hyper-reality probably comes closest. Granted I find, say, Wes Anderson's version of hyper-reality quite a bit more interesting, but I also can't get a weekly dose of Wes Anderson (or at least new Wes Anderson), and I find 6FU compelling for the same reasons I enjoy The Royal Tennenbaums. I don't think it's anywhere as good, but while I may not like many of the characters much on 6FU, I really like all the actors.


Trudy Booth - Jun 16, 2003 6:52:01 am PDT #5109 of 9843
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I find 6FU compelling for the same reasons I enjoy The Royal Tennenbaums

YES! It is precisely that!

I love it when an author creates a little world and sucks me in. When it's an odd little world I love it even more.


§ ita § - Jun 16, 2003 6:52:39 am PDT #5110 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I've tried to like 6'U, but I keep forgetting to watch it again, which doesn't speak well for it. I mean, I can remember to watch Mutant X two weeks in a row. Hell, I have TiVo, and I still never manage to do it.


Sue - Jun 16, 2003 7:04:03 am PDT #5111 of 9843
hip deep in pie

Plei, did you know about Escape From the Newsroom? It was pretty uneven, but still had some brilliant moments.


P.M. Marc - Jun 16, 2003 7:05:28 am PDT #5112 of 9843
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Sue, I'd heard of it. Do you know if it's available for rental or purchase?


Jon B. - Jun 16, 2003 7:18:20 am PDT #5113 of 9843
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I do love Lauren Ambrose

Yes! She is a bright spot on an otherwise (for me) dull show. And let me take this opportunity to recommend "Swimming", a wonderful indie film she starred in a couple of years ago. Unfortunately, it's gotten minimal distribution.

I find 6FU compelling for the same reasons I enjoy The Royal Tennenbaums

Hmmm... interesting. I love Wes Anderson's stuff, but I wonder if he would also irritate me if his little world was on display every week instead of just for 2 hours.


Sue - Jun 16, 2003 7:29:27 am PDT #5114 of 9843
hip deep in pie

It doesn't look like it's available yet, Plei.


P.M. Marc - Jun 16, 2003 7:31:02 am PDT #5115 of 9843
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Sigh. Some day....


Frankenbuddha - Jun 16, 2003 7:34:31 am PDT #5116 of 9843
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Hmmm... interesting. I love Wes Anderson's stuff, but I wonder if he would also irritate me if his little world was on display every week instead of just for 2 hours.

As I said, I find Wes Anderson the far more interesting work. A lot of that has to do with the fact that his stuff is far more fantastical. It's rare to find a talent so whimsical who manages to avoid the cloying, Rushmore moreso than TRT.

6FU is far more prosaic (I certainly won't say more realistic), but what I enjoy about the show is similar to what I enjoy about WA.


meara - Jun 16, 2003 7:34:49 am PDT #5117 of 9843

And let me take this opportunity to recommend "Swimming", a wonderful indie film she starred in a couple of years ago. Unfortunately, it's gotten minimal distribution.

Hee! I just watched it Friday! Except it was advertised to us as this lesbian film, so we kept waiting for the lesbianism, and while there was plenty of dyke drama, there was no actual dykeyness, so we were quite disappointed.

But I think watching that film is why I hooked up with the girl who looked like Lauren Ambrose on Saturday...