I'd have gone with both, I think, for Russia. Mostly in Europe, but sidling into Asia.
so so so tempted to take Go Team Fay's Arse for my tagline....
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Fay - May 25, 2003 2:01:16 pm PDT #4852 of 9843
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.
brenda m - May 25, 2003 2:06:49 pm PDT #4853 of 9843
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
A friend from Turkey told me that it was half in Europe, half in Asia - he lived in the Asian half. So among his circle, anyway, that was how they consided it to be divided.
erikaj - May 25, 2003 4:10:30 pm PDT #4854 of 9843
Always Anti-fascist!
America wishes it could see you too, Nilly. And if you do come here, we'll help you find All-American, yet kosher, things. So you don't have to miss stuff.
Nilly - May 26, 2003 1:10:41 am PDT #4855 of 9843
Swouncing
erika, thank you for your lovely words. I do plan on visiting some day, when my bank account permits me. Also, I hope you have an amazing time at the F2F.
Just out of curiosity: which continent would you consider Israel? Because I've heard all of the possible options of Europe, Africa and Asia (being, in a way, a connecting point between them). Um, some people would probably like it to be somewhere in America, so that it'll be easier for us to become the new USA state, and some, especially in July-August, would dream of waking up somewhere in Antarctica. Oh, and my sister who loves everything Australian would probably prefer that option to all the rest.
Raffles - May 26, 2003 2:02:54 am PDT #4856 of 9843
Eurovision entries come from the members of the European Broadcasting Union, whose geographical status seems to be rather varied.
For instance, I believe that Morocco is also a member of the EBU but decided not to take part in Eurovision this year.
In an effort to keep the numbers down, in recent years the countries that do really badly each year are not eligible the following year. However, Britain contributes vast shedloads of dosh to the EBU so I guess our 'nul points' this year will be overlooked ...
Another fact is that the winning country gets to host the following year's contest. This costs a lot of money so there is an incentive not to come first.
It is Eurovision faux history that Ireland - having won the contest two years running and being a relatively poor country - purposefully entered a really bad song so they wouldn't win and have to host the contest for a third year.
But really, you only watch Eurovision for the hysterically funny political voting. Someone I know worked out in advance that Turkey would win purely on the basis of the politcal voting.
Fay - May 26, 2003 2:22:59 am PDT #4857 of 9843
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.
But really, you only watch Eurovision for the hysterically funny political voting.
Raffles, you spelled "costumes, dance routines and lyrics" kind funny there. ;o)
Israel is in the Middle East - I wouldn't really want to say it was in Africa or Asia, to be honest, but I guess I'd say Asia, myself. (It's most definitely not in Europe, geographically or culturally.)
some people would probably like it to be somewhere in America, so that it'll be easier for us to become the new USA state
I can appreciate why you might say that, but this does sum up precisely why one hell of a lot of people are profoundly pissed off about Israel's existence. IJS.
Raffles - May 26, 2003 2:29:42 am PDT #4858 of 9843
Oh, those too Fay !
And the El-Tel commentary. I forgot that. Eurovision will die when he hangs up his hat.
ETA And the Belgian entry this year was in a made-up language - huh??
Fay - May 26, 2003 2:45:51 am PDT #4859 of 9843
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.
And the Belgian entry this year was in a made-up language - huh??
What? Really? Good lord. Belgium were my favourite team this year - I was really rooting for them. Although I liked Turkey, and was happy enough that they won. Belly dancing music - always a good thing.
I t heart Terry Wogan.
Nilly - May 26, 2003 2:53:36 am PDT #4860 of 9843
Swouncing
It is Eurovision faux history that Ireland - having won the contest two years running and being a relatively poor country - purposefully entered a really bad song so they wouldn't win and have to host the contest for a third year.
Israel won two consecutive years, and couldn't afford hosting the contest two years running, so on the following year the contest was held in the country that got to the second place (I have no idea which one it was).
this does sum up precisely why one hell of a lot of people are profoundly pissed off about Israel's existence.
Well, lots of people in Israel really don't like this point of view, either.
Raffles - May 26, 2003 6:42:49 am PDT #4861 of 9843
And the Belgian entry this year was in a made-up language - huh??
It was apparently in an effort to show that Eurovision-ism is above individual native languages, we all speak with one voice, yada yada yada.
Plus it was a first class rip-off of Clannad!
The point about the Irish story is that it's just not true although it has become part of (UK) Eurovision folk history.