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All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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Raffles - May 26, 2003 6:42:49 am PDT #4861 of 9843

And the Belgian entry this year was in a made-up language - huh??

It was apparently in an effort to show that Eurovision-ism is above individual native languages, we all speak with one voice, yada yada yada.

Plus it was a first class rip-off of Clannad!

The point about the Irish story is that it's just not true although it has become part of (UK) Eurovision folk history.


Fay - May 26, 2003 6:47:41 am PDT #4862 of 9843
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Fair point, Nilly, and well made.

Plus it was a first class rip-off of Clannad!

You think? I can see that, I guess - I was more reminded of the Afro Celt Sound System. I liked it, myself.


Jars - May 26, 2003 6:52:52 am PDT #4863 of 9843

Ireland actually won three years in a row, and it's definitely Irish folk history that it nearly broke RTE (the Irish broadcasting company). Since then we've been sure to enter entirely mediocre song-stylings in order to avoid the expense. I think we may have won by accident once since, though.

Good 'ol Eurovision. Is it an enduring testament to the kitschiest of eurotrash or a celebration of postmodernism? You may be able to tell that I'm trying to justify my hosting of a Eurovision party on Saturday night. We had score sheets and eveything. I probably shouldn't tell people that.


Nilly - May 26, 2003 6:53:42 am PDT #4864 of 9843
Swouncing

Thanks, Fay.

It was apparently in an effort to show that Eurovision-ism is above individual native languages, we all speak with one voice, yada yada yada.

The first Israeli song to ever win the contest was in the 'b' language, which means you put the letter 'b' after every consonant in the words you say. So "All ogle, no cash" is said in the 'b' language as 'Aballb obogblbe, nobo cabashb'. The idea behind it was just the one I quoted from Raffles' post, and, well, at that time it apparently worked.


Angus G - May 26, 2003 7:51:43 am PDT #4865 of 9843
Roguish Laird

Anything that gives the world Abba is all right by me.


Tom Scola - May 26, 2003 8:52:09 am PDT #4866 of 9843
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

There's an article about the Eurovision Song Contest in today's New York Times.


evil jimi - May 26, 2003 9:10:39 am PDT #4867 of 9843
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

Nul points - UK out of tune with Europe


Fiona - May 26, 2003 9:15:27 am PDT #4868 of 9843

I loved this quote from the Guardian article:

"It's like somebody went into Boots, found the first person they saw behind the counter, asked them if they could sing and they said 'no', but they picked them anyway."


Fay - May 26, 2003 11:16:21 am PDT #4869 of 9843
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

And it's SO accurate. They were abysmal. Truly, truly abysmal.


Raffles - May 26, 2003 1:28:22 pm PDT #4870 of 9843

Yes. Don't let anyone fool you. Anyone who watched it knows that the British entry truly sucked and the fact that we earned ''nul points' had nothing to do with anything else.