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Fay - May 12, 2003 3:13:56 pm PDT #4680 of 9843
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

So, the UK has just seen the first two eps of Firefly. ("Serenity", in two parts but following directly on from one another). And I really DO love it as much as I thought I would. Quite possibly more. In fact, were it not for the depressing knowledge that it got suffocated by the good people of Fox, and that falling head over heels in love with it would be sheer craziness, then it would be in danger of quickly becoming my very favourite show.

Curse those Fox Bastards. Darn them. Darn them all to heck.

Jars - May 12, 2003 4:10:18 pm PDT #4681 of 9843

Better to have loved and lost, Fay.

That's what I've been telling myself, because Firefly? I love it. Lots. In many ways. But I know its going to be cruelly ripped away from me.

C'mon! Who cancels a show with britches? Crazy people, that's who.

Cindy - May 12, 2003 4:11:58 pm PDT #4682 of 9843
Nobody

That's what I've been telling myself, because Firefly? I love it. Lots. In many ways. But I know its going to be cruelly ripped away from me.

Now that you know its fate, don't go into it thinking of it as a continuing series. Think of it as a nifty finite series. Maybe that will help.

Nutty - May 12, 2003 4:13:38 pm PDT #4683 of 9843
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Fay, I think when it was airing in the US I described it as falling in love with a compulsive parachutist: any day might be the day your beloved went splat. Alas that it did.

Betsy HP - May 12, 2003 4:18:42 pm PDT #4684 of 9843
If I only had a brain...

The chef in *Edwardian House* is straight out of Wodehouse.

My husband found his Website:

[link]

Typo Boy - May 12, 2003 4:31:18 pm PDT #4685 of 9843
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Looking at the menus and seeing:

Smoked guinea Foul with Cranberry Chutney

Personally I prefer Fowl.

(I presume this was a typo and not a britishism.)

Noumenon - May 12, 2003 11:13:27 pm PDT #4686 of 9843
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti

Westerners--are incredibly odd, with our strange ideas..., our idea of sex as a completely mutual activity between two (or more) equal subjects, and so on.

Larry Niven really put a twist on this by designing species with nonsentient females... wish I could remember what effect this had on their society. I know he worked out some interesting consequences.

Typo Boy - May 12, 2003 11:15:51 pm PDT #4687 of 9843
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

The Kzin - and it turned out it was more complicated than that. The females were not really non-sentient. And the whole Kzin society and genetic traits were a result of a primitive tribal society getting hold of genetic engineering and remaking themselves in the image of their folk tales.

Burrell - May 12, 2003 11:19:00 pm PDT #4688 of 9843
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Larry Niven really put a twist on this by designing species with nonsentient females...

Is this one of those weird male fantasies that I just don't get, like the one about being a disembodied head in a jar?

Noumenon - May 12, 2003 11:21:25 pm PDT #4689 of 9843
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti

Can you remember why the Experimentalist puppeteers made them nonsentient? I can't. I know there was some kind of evolutionary or societal consequence; Niven always does that.

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