Spike: I'm not a monster. Xander: Yes! You are a monster. Vampires are monsters! They make monster movies about them! Spike: Well, yeah. Got me there.

'Dirty Girls'


All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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Cindy - May 12, 2003 4:11:58 pm PDT #4682 of 9843
Nobody

That's what I've been telling myself, because Firefly? I love it. Lots. In many ways. But I know its going to be cruelly ripped away from me.

Now that you know its fate, don't go into it thinking of it as a continuing series. Think of it as a nifty finite series. Maybe that will help.


Nutty - May 12, 2003 4:13:38 pm PDT #4683 of 9843
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Fay, I think when it was airing in the US I described it as falling in love with a compulsive parachutist: any day might be the day your beloved went splat. Alas that it did.


Betsy HP - May 12, 2003 4:18:42 pm PDT #4684 of 9843
If I only had a brain...

The chef in *Edwardian House* is straight out of Wodehouse.

My husband found his Website:

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Typo Boy - May 12, 2003 4:31:18 pm PDT #4685 of 9843
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Looking at the menus and seeing:

Smoked guinea Foul with Cranberry Chutney

Personally I prefer Fowl.

(I presume this was a typo and not a britishism.)


Noumenon - May 12, 2003 11:13:27 pm PDT #4686 of 9843
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti

Westerners--are incredibly odd, with our strange ideas..., our idea of sex as a completely mutual activity between two (or more) equal subjects, and so on.

Larry Niven really put a twist on this by designing species with nonsentient females... wish I could remember what effect this had on their society. I know he worked out some interesting consequences.


Typo Boy - May 12, 2003 11:15:51 pm PDT #4687 of 9843
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

The Kzin - and it turned out it was more complicated than that. The females were not really non-sentient. And the whole Kzin society and genetic traits were a result of a primitive tribal society getting hold of genetic engineering and remaking themselves in the image of their folk tales.


Burrell - May 12, 2003 11:19:00 pm PDT #4688 of 9843
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Larry Niven really put a twist on this by designing species with nonsentient females...

Is this one of those weird male fantasies that I just don't get, like the one about being a disembodied head in a jar?


Noumenon - May 12, 2003 11:21:25 pm PDT #4689 of 9843
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti

Can you remember why the Experimentalist puppeteers made them nonsentient? I can't. I know there was some kind of evolutionary or societal consequence; Niven always does that.


Typo Boy - May 12, 2003 11:23:55 pm PDT #4690 of 9843
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I think this is more a Niven fantasy than a male fantasy. (Heck being a disembodies head in a jar is not a male fantasy either.) He was trying to come up with a plausible truly alien society. Having much more extreme biological differentiation between male and female is one way to get a species truly alien to us. Making them carnivores was another. And it is also (in spite of Niven being very right wing) a satire on a certain type of sociobiologists. As in "here's what we'd really be like if your theories werer correct">


Burrell - May 12, 2003 11:26:41 pm PDT #4691 of 9843
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Heck being a disembodies head in a jar is not a male fantasy either.

Based on the number of times I've read otherwise reasonable scientists and philosophers ponder on this as a "what if?" I'm thinking that it is. Not fantasy as in sexual fantasy, fantasy as in "plausible other imaginary."