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Sean K - Apr 26, 2003 11:27:06 am PDT #4220 of 9843

You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Why is it called the Miranda speech?

It's based on a criminal case here in the States, where the defendant's last name was Miranda. The defendant was a Spanish speaker who was convicted without ever being made aware of his rights to a lawyer, and to not have to talk to the police.

Raffles - Apr 26, 2003 11:37:32 am PDT #4221 of 9843

But we don't refer to it as 'Mirandising' in the UK.

It's called 'Being Read Your Rights'.

Trudy Booth - Apr 26, 2003 12:14:05 pm PDT #4222 of 9843

Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Is "gazumping" an actual legal term?

Now I'm imagining red-faced men in funny wigs saying it in great earnest.

No wonder you people spawned Monty Python.

But we don't refer to it as 'Mirandising' in the UK.

Do y'all name statutes after the cases that spawned them? Would you call it "That Bloody WOG Who Ruined All The Interrougation Fun"?

;-P

Fay - Apr 26, 2003 12:37:45 pm PDT #4223 of 9843

"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Is "gazumping" an actual legal term?

I think so. Not sure.

Would you call it "That Bloody WOG Who Ruined All The Interrougation Fun"?

Um. No. And we don't tend to name laws after the people who spawned them as often as you folks do, I think.

Theodosia - Apr 26, 2003 1:32:26 pm PDT #4224 of 9843

'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

It's a very little known fact that 'being read the Riot Act' is actually named after a certain Lord Riot. (It was originally a Norman name.)

§ ita § - Apr 26, 2003 2:13:24 pm PDT #4225 of 9843

Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I want to be read the Rio Act.

Typo Boy - Apr 26, 2003 3:39:15 pm PDT #4226 of 9843

Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

BTW as I remember we didn't get the Miranda decision until 1966 in the U.S. Didn't the British custom of "warning" defendents occur much earlier - actually putting you ahead in one civil liberty?

Typo Boy - Apr 26, 2003 3:40:39 pm PDT #4227 of 9843

Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

serial:

I want to be read the Rio Act.

I want to watch Rio read you the Rio Act.

Theodosia - Apr 26, 2003 3:45:06 pm PDT #4228 of 9843

'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Probably ASSCAPS will be involved.

amych - Apr 26, 2003 3:46:25 pm PDT #4229 of 9843

Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I think all legal warnings should start out, "HEY FUCKOS!"

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