That's beautiful. Or taken literally, incredibly gross.

Buffy ,'Potential'


All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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Fay - Apr 26, 2003 12:37:45 pm PDT #4223 of 9843
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Is "gazumping" an actual legal term?

I think so. Not sure.

Would you call it "That Bloody WOG Who Ruined All The Interrougation Fun"?

Um. No. And we don't tend to name laws after the people who spawned them as often as you folks do, I think.


Theodosia - Apr 26, 2003 1:32:26 pm PDT #4224 of 9843
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

It's a very little known fact that 'being read the Riot Act' is actually named after a certain Lord Riot. (It was originally a Norman name.)


§ ita § - Apr 26, 2003 2:13:24 pm PDT #4225 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I want to be read the Rio Act.


Typo Boy - Apr 26, 2003 3:39:15 pm PDT #4226 of 9843
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

BTW as I remember we didn't get the Miranda decision until 1966 in the U.S. Didn't the British custom of "warning" defendents occur much earlier - actually putting you ahead in one civil liberty?


Typo Boy - Apr 26, 2003 3:40:39 pm PDT #4227 of 9843
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

serial:

I want to be read the Rio Act.

I want to watch Rio read you the Rio Act.


Theodosia - Apr 26, 2003 3:45:06 pm PDT #4228 of 9843
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Probably ASSCAPS will be involved.


amych - Apr 26, 2003 3:46:25 pm PDT #4229 of 9843
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I think all legal warnings should start out, "HEY FUCKOS!"


Leigh - Apr 27, 2003 8:26:21 am PDT #4230 of 9843
Nobody

I think all legal warnings should start out, "HEY FUCKOS!"

Heh. Legislation as well, if only in an attempt to make my Foundations reading more interesting.

In this part, FUCKOS are defined as you, dipshit, because we know that your smarmy-ass lawyers are just reading this thing to determine whether you can sue someone because it turns out that you actually are as dumb as you look.


Nutty - Apr 27, 2003 6:56:07 pm PDT #4231 of 9843
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Miranda isn't a law in the US; it's a court decision. So what we call "Miranda rights" are the rights ensured by a legal decision called Miranda v. Arizona, from 1966. It's an abbreviation.

And I gather that before Miranda, some states did have laws on the books saying, "Dude, if you want the confession to stick, you should cover your behind." It's just that Arizona wasn't one of those states (nor, apparently, were new York or California), and the Fifth Amendment was being laughed at, and so now, officially and clearly, and nationwide,

the prosecution may not use statements, whether exculpatory or inculpatory, stemming from custodial interrogation of the defendant unless it demonstrates the use of procedural safeguards effective to secure the privilege against self-incrimination. By custodial interrogation, we mean questioning initiated by law enforcement officers after a person has been taken into custody or otherwise deprived of his freedom of action in any significant way

The Findlaw Entry on Miranda, which also touches on the tradition against involuntary self-incrimination in England.


Typo Boy - Apr 27, 2003 7:16:53 pm PDT #4232 of 9843
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

It's not a law. But as a binding court decision it is law.

t /rationalization