You're not gonna jokey-rhyme your way out of this one.

Willow ,'Sleeper'


Natter 37: Oddly Enough, We've Had This Conversation Before.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 12, 2005 6:50:41 am PDT #7672 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I don't think it's harmful for children to see their same-gender parents naked and be able to identify with them body-image wise, though I wouldn't recommend making a special occasion of it or anything. I mean, as misguided as this advice is about its actual intent, I don't think it's going to prompt pedophillia in fathers who weren't going to engage in it anyway.


sarameg - Aug 12, 2005 6:56:19 am PDT #7673 of 10002

And if my 2.5 year old nephew is any indication, they pick up on the differences pretty damned early. And LOVE to point them out. Or ask you about them.

It's rather unfortunate that my nephew latched on to the work "broken" to describe different though. They don't know where he got that, but they are trying to break him of it because a) it sounds so bad and b) his mother is really tired of being described as "broken."


Calli - Aug 12, 2005 6:57:18 am PDT #7674 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

When my nephew had just started walking, he would walk in on his father when the latter was urinating. He didn't seem too interested in comparative physiology, but did try to play with the stream of funny water. My BiL started locking the bathroom door.

My nephew seems to have grown up het. He's geeky and inclined to make robots instead of play football, but I don't think views of his dad's bits had much of an influence there.


Kathy A - Aug 12, 2005 7:03:33 am PDT #7675 of 10002
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

::prepares an expedition to find the secret lost waterfall of the Chicago financial district::

Go stand in the tunnel system, and get a bridge repair crew on the river to punch a hole in the tunnel roof with some wood piles, and voila! Instant waterfall. Of course, you'll also get to flood out the entire Loop, but that's just a bonus.


Fred Pete - Aug 12, 2005 7:05:20 am PDT #7676 of 10002
Ann, that's a ferret.

I don't think it's harmful for children to see their same-gender parents naked and be able to identify with them body-image wise

I'll agree as a general rule, and there may even be valid reasons to do so (demonstrating proper hygiene and potty training come to mind). But "take your son into the shower so he can see your genitalia" is squickmaking at best.


§ ita § - Aug 12, 2005 7:15:27 am PDT #7677 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm slightly traumatised by the idea of being invited into the shower to see parental genitalia.

Haitian-born woman next Canadian Governor General.


Sue - Aug 12, 2005 7:22:05 am PDT #7678 of 10002
hip deep in pie

Haitian-born woman next Canadian Governor General.

Apparently the secret of becoming Governor General is to work for the CBC.


Emily - Aug 12, 2005 7:45:10 am PDT #7679 of 10002
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

growing up straight isn’t something that happens. It requires good parenting.

Because in the wild, you see, everything is gay. Cavemen? Gay. Ancient Egyptians? Please. Honestly, everyone up until the birth of Christ -- gay, because no Christian family values! Oh, maybe the girls weren't gay (due to the immense drawing power of the penis), but let's be honest here, who cares?


msbelle - Aug 12, 2005 7:52:03 am PDT #7680 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

not for nuthin, but if they are gonna say that gay is a choice, they have to also say straight is a choice, right?


§ ita § - Aug 12, 2005 7:56:24 am PDT #7681 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

they have to also say straight is a choice, right?

Not if gay is something that straight people can choose to be. Like how my blonde hair is more of a choice than not bleaching it is.

Fact is, Captain Logic has been sent to walk the plank on that particular tugboat. They will do nothing that doesn't serve their precise ends.