Phew. It still doesn't explain why I had an Aerosmith song running through my head yesterday when I just heard it on the radio today.

A lot the terrible episodes, like She and The-One-where-the-entire-plot-was-Buffy-and-Riley-having-sex, have redeeming seriously good moments. She is actually great up until Alternate-Dimension-Chick shows up.

As You Were, on the other hand, blamed *Buffy* entirely for the B/R break-up. Not even a mention of Riley's cheating. Or serious psychological issues. Or the fact that he barely mentioned somthing was wrong until after she'd found him getting bitten by a vampire.

I *liked* Riley, and I'm saying, that's got to be one of the worst episodes ever.

I like AYW. It had RILEY! the same Riley from Smallville, Iowa that I liked as grad student, military guy and normal boyfriend .

Not even a mention of Riley's cheating. Or serious psychological issues. Or the fact that he barely mentioned somthing was wrong until after she'd found him getting bitten by a vampire.

Huh! What is this. I know nothing of psychologically disturbed Riley.

I have erased Shadow to Into the Woods from my Riley arc as I have erased Smashed to Double Meet Palace from my Willow arc. (It's nice here by the pyramids).

And finally reached the end of the active NA Buffy thread. yay me!

Wait. this means that BtVS is really finally over. t Willow banshee scream from two to go

I know nothing of psychologically disturbed Riley.

"You're attracted to the dark supernatural broody so I'm letting these Initiative enhancements kill me" blah blah blah.

I can live with the one-sided-ness of Riley's return, simply because I don't have a dog in that fight. I was happy to focus on Riley in the ways he wasn't connected to Buffy, few as those may have been.

The demon eggs and the not telling about not killing the first demon, not so great. But not a disaster for the story.

Eh, everyone has different standards. Allyson's been saying forever that Buffy died for her (along with Buffy, go figure) in season 5. But she was one of AS YOU WERE's biggest defenders. I think she may have liked it better than OMWF, but don't quote me on that.

Granted, I don't know ANYONE who liked SHE or DOUBLEMEAT PALACE that much. I personally kinda like that latter, but that's because I worked enough in that sort of environment to really enjoy the satire without it taking over my life so much that representations of the same send me screaming from the room.

Granted, I don't know ANYONE who liked SHE or DOUBLEMEAT PALACE that much.

I liked Doublemeat Palace enough to not have any adverse reaction to someone announcing it was their favorite episode ever. I can see things in it that could really strike someone's funnybone the right way.

She . . . Marti Noxon counts as "anyone", right?

I hated the Car Crash of Crack Magic. I hated that whole story line. I thought (hoped) it was going to be about Willow's abuse of power and how she kept using magic because she was so insecure about who she was.

Not to start that whole debate up again, but some of us didn't see the addiction metaphor as cancelling out the abuse of magic because of insecurity metaphor.

I thought it would be hilarious in much the same way that one "BArney Miller" episode was so funny.

"Good in milk. Go 'mooshie, mooshie.'" I loved Jack Soo.

God that was a good show.

I can't think of a BtVS show that I really dislike so much I wouldn't watch it again. I actually liked As You Were. Oh, well, OK, Where the Wild Things Are or whatever that was called is among my least favorites. I've still seen it at least twice, though. I am also one of the Season 6 likers. The few, the defensive ... (kidding. Not defensive. Stop looking at me like that, dammit!)

I can certainly see the argument that EVERYONE (except Giles since he wasn't around) grasped at the straws of addiction in order to not face up to other possibilities, or because it just made everything easier to get on with things. And then Tara's death basically put the kibosh on that theory in one swell foop. However, the text (shakes in the shower for example) overwhelmed the subtext (worst than the other thing in Seeing Red I don't remotely want to get into here), regardless of intent. I think Giles put the lie to the addiction theory when he showed up, but, again, they'd tried misdirecting a bit too much.

In other words, I don't think WorldDestruction!Willow was remotely meant to be a represntation of an addict, but they played the metaphor to close to the real thing for it to quite make up for the wind that got let out of the "abuse of power" sails. I still enjoyed season 6 a whole lot - but I really think they dropped the ball/took the easy way out/blew it with this part. If they'd showed everyone really talking themselves into "Yes, Willow has a magic problem" rather than "Willow has some personality problems" in a way that felt like they were going for a convenient scapegoat so they could let Willow off the hook, I'd have felt better. It ended up playing too on the nose, I think.

"Good in milk. Go 'mooshie, mooshie.'" I loved Jack Soo.

"Let's go down to the beach and shoot some clams."

Also, Ron Glass realizing they were all stoned, including himself.